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Old 03-03-2013, 01:01 PM   #1
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This is kind of my 2nd team in College Basketball. Been following them since Richie Frahm and Matt Santangelo were there back in the early 2000's. What do you guys think about them and their title chances this year? That front court is indeed monstrous but they could get in trouble if Olynyk ever got into foul trouble in a tourney game. I imagine they'll be the #1 seed everyone has going down first but if they play their game, I'm not sure there are many teams outside of Indiana and maybe Duke that can beat them. Unlike previous years where they struggled some after the 2nd round & Sweet 16, I think this team is built for March and can be a Final 4 contender.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:20 PM   #2
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I disagree. I think they'll make it to the Elite 8 maybe, but they're not gonna win the title
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:24 PM   #3
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They're going to be the #1 team, but they aren't the best team

I like IU, they're battle tested.

Also like G Town. One thing the tourney has shown is one guy always seems to take over, I think Otto Porter Jr is that guy.
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They've already peaked as a team. They won't keep this up through March. I don't think they get past the Sweet 16
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This is kind of my 2nd team in College Basketball. Been following them since Richie Frahm and Matt Santangelo were there back in the early 2000's. What do you guys think about them and their title chances this year? That front court is indeed monstrous but they could get in trouble if Olynyk ever got into foul trouble in a tourney game. I imagine they'll be the #1 seed everyone has going down first but if they play their game, I'm not sure there are many teams outside of Indiana and maybe Duke that can beat them. Unlike previous years where they struggled some after the 2nd round & Sweet 16, I think this team is built for March and can be a Final 4 contender.
I was a Stockton fan growing up, so I've definitely liked the Zag's teams over the years.. always have great guards ever since Stockton to the late 90's and so on.

They have a scary good team, no better frontcourt than Zaga (other than a healthy Kelly Duke). Olynk is a monster, not sure why the NBA scouts aren't all about him
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I like the Zag's and georgetown this year, but look out for St. Louis this year.
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Default Re: Is Gonzaga #1?

if they played in the big east they would have at least 5 losses

the teams they play are a joke
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if they played in the big east they would have at least 5 losses

the teams they play are a joke
It's probably better than an SEC schedule
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:04 PM   #11
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It's probably better than an SEC schedule
Per CBS' SOS numbers:

23. Florida 0.5763
36. Tennessee 0.5692
53. Missouri 0.5581
54. Texas A&M 0.5579
57. Georgia 0.5552
58. Kentucky 0.5538
68. Vanderbilt 0.5492
71. Gonzaga 0.5482
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96. Mississippi State 0.5374
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Average SEC SOS: 0.5442

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So far they have played 3 ranked teams this year.
Illinois # 13 lost
Oklahoma St # 22 won
Butler # 13 lost
They're a good NIT team. With they're schedule, they shouldn't even be allowed
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They're a good NIT team.
Although I do agree the schedule is weak. And the Resume isn't great.
I disagree with this.

They'll win their Conference tourney meaning they (By rule) deserve to be in the Tourney.


They'd probably win the SEC this year as well.
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I'm cheering for em but I agree with previous posters, their resume proves they're not quite there yet.

But hey, this has been an insane season so far, so I guess you can't count anyone out (except for us of course haha)
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I'm cheering for em but I agree with previous posters, their resume proves they're not quite there yet.

But hey, this has been an insane season so far, so I guess you can't count anyone out (except for us of course haha)
Agreed. This has been an extremely entertaining season.

I believe they've gotten this high because of their name and what they've done in the past. Of course the team has great talent. But the Resume doesn't stack with other teams (Although their RPI is 9 with the SOS being 71, don't understand that one)

If this was any other Mid-Major school (example Murray State from last year) they would not rise that quickly in the polls.
The difference between Murray State's schedule and Gonzaga's is a lot different but I couldn't think of anything else.

That said there is nothing bad to say about what Mark Few has done with that program.
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They have wins over Kansas St (by 16), Oklahoma (by 25), Oklahoma St, Davidson (by 14), St. Mary's x2, BYU x2, Baylor, and Santa Clara x2. They are legit. If you are knocking them for losing 2 times all season (to a team that has gone to the national championship 2 times in the last 3 years, and a great program like Illinois), you are holding them to way too high of a standard. When is the last time a team went undefeated??? Yea, that's what I thought. Now they may not be THE best team in the country, but they are a top 3-4 team no doubt. The tournament will tell the story
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They have wins over Kansas St (by 16), Oklahoma (by 25), Oklahoma St, Davidson (by 14), St. Mary's x2, BYU x2, Baylor, and Santa Clara x2. They are legit. If you are knocking them for losing 2 times all season (to a team that has gone to the national championship 2 times in the last 3 years, and a great program like Illinois), you are holding them to way too high of a standard. When is the last time a team went undefeated??? Yea, that's what I thought. Now they may not be THE best team in the country, but they are a top 3-4 team no doubt. The tournament will tell the story
None of those teams are ranked. Joke schedule. I wonder if Vitale will bring that up.
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None of those teams are ranked. Joke schedule. I wonder if Vitale will bring that up.
K State and Ok State are
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Yes Okla St is their only win over top 25. Kansas St was not ranked when Gonzaga beat them according to ESPN.

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Although I do agree the schedule is weak. And the Resume isn't great.
I disagree with this.

They'll win their Conference tourney meaning they (By rule) deserve to be in the Tourney.


They'd probably win the SEC this year as well.
florida would kill them
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