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Old 03-25-2013, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default New NCAA Basketball Rule Idea

Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

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Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

... go
That's what makes March Madness so exciting. You don't want it to be predictable and have the same teams winning all the time.
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So March Madness before the last ... 5-10 years wasn't exciting? Grant Hill and Christian Lattiner were both upper classmen when they made one of the most exciting plays in tournament history.

Bryce Drew was a senior the year he hit the game winning shot over Ole Miss in the tourney.

Not saying underclassmen can't perform, but the game quality isn't there anymore, and with the rules the way they are, won't ever return.
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Na, I enjoy it.
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Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

... go
I think they should adopt this, but with a two year rule. It would make NCAA basketball better and better prepare players for the NBA.
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It would allow the talent to be spread around though. Not all of the elite players would end up at UK because there is a scholarship limit and I THINK a limit on how many players you can sign in 2 years. I don't think it would solve the "problem" at all.
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It would allow the talent to be spread around though. Not all of the elite players would end up at UK because there is a scholarship limit and I THINK a limit on how many players you can sign in 2 years. I don't think it would solve the "problem" at all.

You'd have guys like Ralph Sampson playing at UVA again
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So March Madness before the last ... 5-10 years wasn't exciting? Grant Hill and Christian Lattiner were both upper classmen when they made one of the most exciting plays in tournament history.

Bryce Drew was a senior the year he hit the game winning shot over Ole Miss in the tourney.

Not saying underclassmen can't perform, but the game quality isn't there anymore, and with the rules the way they are, won't ever return.

The best basketball team wins the championship every year. That never changes. So why try to reduce the exciting upsets along the way?
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I've been in favor of this for a while. Problem is that rules like these are done on the professional level and are usually collectively bargained. Since the one and done rule is working well for the NBA, I don't foresee them changing it any time soon.

If the NCAA were to enact any rules like this, I think you'd see more cases like Brandon Jennings and Jeremy Tyler going overseas or possibly exploring the option of playing in the D-League for 1 year before going to the NBA.
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I love March Madness since anything can happen. But I wish kids had to stay at least 2 maybe 3 years in college before going to the NBA. It was awesome in the 80's watching Sampson, Len Bias, Jordan, etc play at least though their junior year.

And that's one reason the NBA is such a bad product. Lots of the young kids don't have the basic fundamentals, body strength, etc. Plus it used to be you followed a kid in the NBA because you followed him for 3-4 years in college. Not anymore.
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It would allow the talent to be spread around though. Not all of the elite players would end up at UK because there is a scholarship limit and I THINK a limit on how many players you can sign in 2 years. I don't think it would solve the "problem" at all.
They did away with the 2 year limit, the old 5-8 rule, in 2004 or 2005.
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Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

... go
The team has been around for a decade now and its a fairly good mix of upper class men. These smaller teams winning more is actually the result of the blue blood teams not having elite guys for multiple seasons.
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They did away with the 2 year limit, the old 5-8 rule, in 2004 or 2005.
Thanks, I wasn't sure.

This rule, if anything, would feed more quality players to mid major teams which would create more parody in College Basketball. If Calipari signed a 5 man class and they are stuck there for 2 or 3 years, thats 5 scholarships that he is going to eat and that he can't use the next 2 years so those players that would end up at UK end up at other bigger schools and the prospects that those schools would typically get now go to the next level below them and so on and so on.

I'm all for the rule, but it would create more FGCU teams.

Heck, USC would benefit greatly with this rule.
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So March Madness before the last ... 5-10 years wasn't exciting? Grant Hill and Christian Lattiner were both upper classmen when they made one of the most exciting plays in tournament history.

Bryce Drew was a senior the year he hit the game winning shot over Ole Miss in the tourney.

Not saying underclassmen can't perform, but the game quality isn't there anymore, and with the rules the way they are, won't ever return.
do you consider a sophomore an upperclassman?
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Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

... go

They won their conference championship, they completed the four year eligibility requirement of the NCAA, other than cheating their way through the process or for wins/championships what reason is there to exclude them?



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He's not saying that FGCU should be excluded from the tournament. He's saying that the talent level between FGCU and whoever they were playing should have been drastic enough to where FGCU couldn't win either of the games they played.
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I love teams like FGCU doing well.
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Lets be honest, the game of College Basketball isn't what it used to be. Nothing against FGCU, but there is NO WAY a school should have a team for 2 years and be in the sweet 16.

I was talking with some friends this weekend and thought of a potential new rule and wanted to run it by the gang.

What do you think if Mens Basketball went to the same ruling as Baseball?

Allow kids to go pro out of HS, BUT, if they go to college they must stay for 3 years.

... go
This has been talked about by a lot of people. ESPN, yahoo, sportsnation, and radio guys are always saying this. I agree.
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He never said they should be excluded. He's saying the 1-and-done rule is hurting big-time basketball programs, and smaller programs that never get the one-and-done guys are benefiting because their guys stay for 4 years, learning the system.

Instead, we should have all teams that benefit from guys staying at least 3 years. The sport of college basketball overall would benefit- because everyone would be playing their own system.
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Let the free market decide. No restrictions unless they are imposed by individual schools with agreements with their athletes. The NBA can only eat up so much talent.
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