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Old 04-15-2013, 06:39 PM   #1
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Default WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

how big of an impact will it have on South Carolina football? In terms of national perception, recruiting, and from a financial standpoint? The hype surrounding him already is paying huge dividends with the media. I can't help but feel excited!! Go Cocks!!
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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In the words of joe biden it would be "a big f$&king deal"
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:36 PM   #3
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

Damn sure will help with DE recruits. Hopefully he has a long productive career so kids down the road hear "JaDeveon Clowney, South Carolina" in pregame intros.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:40 PM   #4
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

Next to impossible for a defensive player to win, but the publicity he has been getting is only good news for us.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:47 PM   #5
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He's already a Big @%%@# deal for us. So it Spurrier, so is Lattimore, so is us being in the top 10. It's all about exposure and we are winning new fans. Things are looking up.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:41 PM   #6
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

It would help if they threw him in there on some goal line situations as a tight end against some of the lesser competition, and tried to throw him a td pass. The media would eat up him scoring some tds. Maybe even line him up as a rb in the same situation. Having both rushing and receiving tds would be something that the media would make a big deal of.
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Look... I love you guys, but Clowney is not winning the Heisman next year. I'd LOVE for it to happen, but it's not going to.
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

The World of football is changing. The thought of only offensive players being the only ones to win the Heisman Award will fall this year. It will go to the best CFP and that is JC.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:15 PM   #9
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

IF he does (which I really hope) be prepared for a lot of crap excuses of why he shouldn't of gotten it since he would be the first defensive player to win it.

I'm talking to you, Clemson fans.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:28 PM   #10
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Exposure...Exposure Exposure Exposure!
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

In a time where ratings and money are the only things that matter in television, I think J.C. winning the Heisman and being the first solely defensive player to do so is too big of a story not to push for all the big networks scraping for material. So he (we) should get a nice media boost that helps sway voter minds. But in the end it's all on him to put in the hard work.

I'll be rooting for him!
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:17 PM   #12
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Give that man all the salt pills he wants
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Default Re: WHEN Clowney becomes the first strictly defensive player to win the Heisman,

how many sacks/TFL do you think he will need to really have a chance?
I'd say probably 20 sacks. Or have like 3-4 in each of the primetime games(unc, uga, uf, clemson) Also, if we win the east and make it to atlanta that's gotta help his odds
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It's pretty common for players that get hyped early in the year (as Clowney will) to fade as the season goes on.

To win the Heisman, Clowney will have to improve on his sack total from last year, and make several game changing plays (think Tennessee and Michigan). So, yes, technically he COULD do it, but some QB/RB somewhere will put up eye popping numbers, and Clowney will have a couple of games where he's triple-teamed all game.

Would I like to see it? YES! Do I expect it? No.
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Don't get your hopes up folks. Realistically he's looking at a 15 sack year if he plays up to his ability...couldn't see more than 17. Team's are gonna key on him now more than ever and we're in the SEC with some of the best offensive linemen in college football and where teams run more than they pass.

Only way he wins the Heisman is if it's:

A. another weak year for offensive players
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C. At least 18-20 sacks and most of them in big prime time games.

The one thing working in Clowney's favor is HYPE. Hype is half the battle for heisman contenders and he has arguably more than anyone in the country. I think he's got a pretty good shot at making the Heisman ceremony (top 5) but winning it will be extremely difficult for a DE. Plenty of other legitimate contenders this year unlike the past couple years with Teddy Bridgewater, Braxton Miller, Johnny Football, and others.
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Don't get your hopes up folks. Realistically he's looking at a 15 sack year if he plays up to his ability...couldn't see more than 17. Team's are gonna key on him now more than ever and we're in the SEC with some of the best offensive linemen in college football and where teams run more than they pass.

Only way he wins the Heisman is if it's:

A. another weak year for offensive players
B. Scores multiple defensive TD's
C. At least 18-20 sacks and most of them in big prime time games.


The one thing working in Clowney's favor is HYPE. Hype is half the battle for heisman contenders and he has arguably more than anyone in the country. I think he's got a pretty good shot at making the Heisman ceremony (top 5) but winning it will be extremely difficult for a DE. Plenty of other legitimate contenders this year unlike the past couple years with Teddy Bridgewater, Braxton Miller, Johnny Football, and others.
I dont think he'll win the heisman but I do think everything you mentioned is not unrealistic for a player of his caliber.
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Think about whose been invited to NY in the past few seasons for the ceremony. Yes including Te'o (even though he didn't deserve to be there). It's not that far out there for Clowney to win the Heisman. A bunch of the Heisman hopefuls on offense lost a lot of weapons and it will take a hit on how they perform.
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It's pretty common for players that get hyped early in the year (as Clowney will) to fade as the season goes on.

To win the Heisman, Clowney will have to improve on his sack total from last year, and make several game changing plays (think Tennessee and Michigan). So, yes, technically he COULD do it, but some QB/RB somewhere will put up eye popping numbers, and Clowney will have a couple of games where he's triple-teamed all game.

Would I like to see it? YES! Do I expect it? No.
Very well said. He definitely has a chance, but he won't have the luxury of not being double or triple teamed, he's going to be held even more than he has been, and he can't "take it easy" on some plays, particularly in nationally televised ganes. Now that he's a known commodity, he's going to draw extra scrutiny from the "talking heads" in the media that may have a bias and want an offensive guy to win, or Manziel to repeat.

As to the OP's question about if his winning it makes an effect on recruiting...it may with one or two kids, but winning the East and the SEC Championship will likely help more.
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