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Old 05-27-2013, 02:34 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if this is being discussed by the NCAA. I think it's been talked about by coaches, fans, etc. I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about this. For it to happen, I think the conference commissioners would need to have their coaches putting pressure on them. And how much real input does the
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Pretty sure the NBA is the only one with any say. They decide when someone is eligible to be drafted, not the NCAA.
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It's part of the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.
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But colleges can also say to a high school kid, if you commit to us, you have to stay 2 years. I'm not sure how the NBA's collective bargaining agreement has any authority over the NCAA.
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But colleges can also say to a high school kid, if you commit to us, you have to stay 2 years. I'm not sure how the NBA's collective bargaining agreement has any authority over the NCAA.
But currently scholarships are year by year renewable.(I do know there were talks of offering four year scholarships in the big 2 aka head count sports)
And if a college says that to say just example Andrew Wiggins, odds are he will say well I would prefer to go to a school that will let me leave after a year.

Not really sure how the NBA has authority over the NCAA, but I see it more as a prerequisite for the NBA to allow players in their league.
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The NBA won't be hurt one bit by waiting one extra year. I know there is always a chance of injury, but just like football, they can purchase insurance. If kids stayed in college for one more year, that extra year would help with their development. Football is 3 years, no reason basketball can't/shouldn't be 2 years.
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Pretty sure the NBA is the only one with any say. They decide when someone is eligible to be drafted, not the NCAA.
Yes but the NCAA can require 2 year commitment.
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The NBA won't be hurt one bit by waiting one extra year. I know there is always a chance of injury, but just like football, they can purchase insurance. If kids stayed in college for one more year, that extra year would help with their development. Football is 3 years, no reason basketball can't/shouldn't be 2 years.

With the NBA I think they're looking at it more in a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" way.

Of course the fundamentals of the game have decreased, but the league is at its highest point of popularity (in terms of money and ratings) even after a lockout.
So in the eyes of those people, they're "winning"

The current CBA runs through the 2020-21 season with ability to opt our after 16-17, so who knows what will happen there. Also I don't think all coaches will want 2 year commitments. Unless of course if its a guy like Andrew Wiggins, but even if that's a case you'll just see them go to Europe for a year.
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IMO its should be the other way around. If you are good enough to enter the NBA draft out of HS, then there is no reason to go to college for one season. Football is much more physical and requires players to develop physically and mentally much more than basketball or baseball.
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I like the NHL's way.

You can get drafted but attend college. And when a team believes you are ready they sign you and you are no longer an amateur.

If you stay all four years and the team that drafted you didn't like how you progressed you are a free agent.
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i say in basketball, you can go out of high school... but if you enroll in college you have to stay until 2 years out of high school
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i say in basketball, you can go out of high school... but if you enroll in college you have to stay until 2 years out of high school
This was the point of the thread.

But I really like what I Bleed said about the NHL.....this seems like a win win for the kids and professional teams.
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This was the point of the thread.

But I really like what I Bleed said about the NHL.....this seems like a win win for the kids and professional teams.
The freaking sport of the Canadians can get it right but we can't.
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The freaking sport of the Canadians can get it right but we can't.
Looks that way to me.
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Yes but the NCAA can require 2 year commitment.
What are you talking about? If the NBA wants to draft somebody, they can. What is the NCAA going to do about it? Tell the player they can't play for the NBA? Tell NBA teams they can't hire the player?

If there is no recourse against a player breaking the commitment (which there isn't), then this is nonsensical. The major league sets the requirements, and the NCAA is powerless to alter them.
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No they can't. How could they say that? Unless it was deemed by the NBA to be the same, all the top players would go play in Europe instead.
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What are you talking about? If the NBA wants to draft somebody, they can. What is the NCAA going to do about it? Tell the player they can't play for the NBA? Tell NBA teams they can't hire the player?

If there is no recourse against a player breaking the commitment (which there isn't), then this is nonsensical. The major league sets the requirements, and the NCAA is powerless to alter them.
They already have a one year rule in place. That doesn't mean they can't take a kid out of high school. I'm not talking about that. When colleges recruit, you simply ask the kid to agree to stay for 2 years and include that in the contract. If they don't want to sign, fine, go play in the NBA.....until a bunch of them find themselves not drafted. The NHL has rules that work, and so does the NFL with their three year rule. If they can do that so the hell can the NBA.....do they have to, no. But it would be a huge black eye on the NBA if the NCAA really pushed. Don't tell me it can't be done, you don't know what your talking about.
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No they can't. How could they say that? Unless it was deemed by the NBA to be the same, all the top players would go play in Europe instead.
As already said earlier, the NBA has no authority over the NCAA. You think Europe's teams are going to sign kids for a one year contract, think again. They already have a 3 year rule in the NFL.
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But colleges can also say to a high school kid, if you commit to us, you have to stay 2 years. I'm not sure how the NBA's collective bargaining agreement has any authority over the NCAA.
they can say it but they can't really enforce it. the only way to do so would be to make all the kids sign some kind of contract stating that they will play at least 2 years but enforcing that on kids that leave after a year to go to the NBA will also force them to go after kids who play their freshman year and then decide to give up basketball and that isn't exactly going to be good for the NCAA.

any change is going to have to come from the NBA, the NCAA can hope the NBA does something about it but that is about all.
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