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Old 07-18-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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Default Clowney not unanimous Pre-season all american?

how can this be? Snubbed, albeit slightly but I mean come on he shoulda of gotten the unanimous. Maybe a little extra inspiration for him?
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Heres a link btw.

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Default Re: Clowney not unanimous Pre-season all american?

This isn't all American... This is all sec according to the the vote of the press at the sec media days... I don't think we have to worry about if he'll be a unanimous all American
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Still, how is he not unanimous All-SEC?
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I'm sure our coaches will use this as motivation and not let him forget this.
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Default Re: Clowney not unanimous Pre-season all american?

Hater's gonna hate. This is simply a case of folks voting for other people because they knew Clowney was going to win anyway.

Let's put it like this, Johnny football, last years heisman trophy winner got less votes than Clowney.
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Default Re: Clowney not unanimous Pre-season all american?

I just dont see anyone better in the SEC at his spot. I guess haters gon hate.
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My fault about the misleading title though it is All-SEC not All-American.
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I just dont see anyone better in the SEC at his spot. I guess haters gon hate.
That's different. AJ McCarron is a quality choice too. He has 46 TD to 8 INT in 2 full seasons as the starter for Alabama (over 5600 yards). I get that Manziel was the Heisman QB, but that was 1 year and a lot of SEC members could possibly think he's a 1 year wonder, especially after all the "drama" he's had.

Oh, and he has 2 National Championships.

So I can definitely see how someone didn't vote for Manziel.

However, Clowney lead all DE's in sacks in the SEC. Chris Smith is the second leaduing returner with 3 less - on a worse team.
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Default Re: Clowney not unanimous Pre-season all american?

McCarron is a stud QB no doubt. He benefits from their system a lot though, very run oriented (and they have great RBs make Def. really respect that) setup the play action and he looks very good. I don't think he will make it in the NFL he gets larger windows to throw in cause DB's always have their eyes in the back field cause of the run game. In NFL I think he will be a Matt Leinart type. Also, how many future or current NFL linemen blocking/blocked for him?
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It's the media. They have there own bias. Some will vote for their local guy, or have a grudge against someone who didn't give them an interview.
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That's different. AJ McCarron is a quality choice too. He has 46 TD to 8 INT in 2 full seasons as the starter for Alabama (over 5600 yards). I get that Manziel was the Heisman QB, but that was 1 year and a lot of SEC members could possibly think he's a 1 year wonder, especially after all the "drama" he's had.

Oh, and he has 2 National Championships.

So I can definitely see how someone didn't vote for Manziel.

However, Clowney lead all DE's in sacks in the SEC. Chris Smith is the second leaduing returner with 3 less - on a worse team.
Gaurantee Manzeil will falter this year, I liken it to the sophomore slump in the NFL. Give these D-coordinators enough film and he won't be nearly as effective.
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Exactly. I don't agree with Manziel or Clowney not being unanimous but it's SEC Media and they're just bias and it doesn't even matter to be honest.
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Gaurantee Manzeil will falter this year, I liken it to the sophomore slump in the NFL. Give these D-coordinators enough film and he won't be nearly as effective.
As much as I hate Tebow off the field he was great in college. He repeated it. So I wouldn't say it's a "guarantee" that Manziel won't. But it would be hard for anyone to repeat exactly what Manziel did. You're basically saying he won't repeat breaking records. Well of course no one "expects" breaking records.

Manziel can pass for 3400 yards and rush for 1200 and that's 500 less yards than last year. Manziel had an incredible run last year. If he breaks 3200 yards passing and only rushes for 1000 yards people will look at that as a "slump" for him and that's still REALLLY GOOD.
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As much as I hate Tebow off the field he was great in college. He repeated it. So I wouldn't say it's a "guarantee" that Manziel won't. But it would be hard for anyone to repeat exactly what Manziel did. You're basically saying he won't repeat breaking records. Well of course no one "expects" breaking records.

Manziel can pass for 3400 yards and rush for 1200 and that's 500 less yards than last year. Manziel had an incredible run last year. If he breaks 3200 yards passing and only rushes for 1000 yards people will look at that as a "slump" for him and that's still REALLLY GOOD.
Yeah I think unrealistic expectations for him, hes a big fish in that pond will leave ASAP. He's draft eligible after next season right?
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Yeah I think unrealistic expectations for him, hes a big fish in that pond will leave ASAP. He's draft eligible after next season right?
Yeah. He RS his true freshmen year, and he played his RS Freshmen year. He's eligible after his RS Sophomore year (this year).

I think he stays at least 1 more year though.
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As much as I hate Tebow off the field he was great in college. He repeated it. So I wouldn't say it's a "guarantee" that Manziel won't. But it would be hard for anyone to repeat exactly what Manziel did. You're basically saying he won't repeat breaking records. Well of course no one "expects" breaking records.

Manziel can pass for 3400 yards and rush for 1200 and that's 500 less yards than last year. Manziel had an incredible run last year. If he breaks 3200 yards passing and only rushes for 1000 yards people will look at that as a "slump" for him and that's still REALLLY GOOD.
I think he took EVERYONE by surprise last season. The tape is out, though, and losing those O-Linemen will combine to make it not as explosive a season. Just my prediction, and I still think he'll do well. But tape out, losing O-Line, and all the off the field crap will prove to be a setback.
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I think he took EVERYONE by surprise last season. The tape is out, though, and losing those O-Linemen will combine to make it not as explosive a season. Just my prediction, and I still think he'll do well. But tape out, losing O-Line, and all the off the field crap will prove to be a setback.
That's my point. You have to clarify set back. I think 100% of people are looking at a set back. He broke records last season. Repeating that would be incredible. A set back for him his 3400 yards passing and 1200 yards rushing. That technically a "set back" but not really, because that's really good and could win him the Heisman again.

Tebow won the Heisman with 3200 yards passing and 800 yards rushing. Johnny Manziel is going to have at least those numbers I would think - and Texas A&M is going to be pretty good. It's not unrealistic to think that he could have a "set back" by definition and still win the Heisman. That's how good his stats were last year.
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That's my point. You have to clarify set back. I think 100% of people are looking at a set back. He broke records last season. Repeating that would be incredible. A set back for him his 3400 yards passing and 1200 yards rushing. That technically a "set back" but not really, because that's really good and could win him the Heisman again.

Tebow won the Heisman with 3200 yards passing and 800 yards rushing. Johnny Manziel is going to have at least those numbers I would think - and Texas A&M is going to be pretty good. It's not unrealistic to think that he could have a "set back" by definition and still win the Heisman. That's how good his stats were last year.
Well no matter how good his stats are, it won't matter unless he wins a championship.
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