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View Poll Results: Best to Wear #5?
Terry Cousin 9 7.96%
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:20 PM   #1
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This is one of 26 voting threads to determine the winners of the best player to wear that number, you can go to the main thread to keep up to date with the results. All polls will stay open for 3 days each.

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DB Terry Cousin 1993-1996
Career Totals: 203 TTK, 5 INT, 2 ForceFum, 40 KRet, 902 Yds, 1 TD

QB Stephen Garcia 2008-11
Career Totals: 589/1021, 7597 Yds, 47 TD, 41 INT, 120.26 RTG
331 Rush, 823 Yds, 15 TD

DB Stephon Gilmore 2009-11
Career Totals: 125 TTK, 4 Sacks, 8 INT, 9 PassDef, 2 FumRec
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:23 PM   #2
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Gilmore, but man Garcia sure puts up one helluva fight. If his career didn't end the way it did, who knows.
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Gilmore, but man Garcia sure puts up one helluva fight. If his career didn't end the way it did, who knows.
If someone said Garcia over Gilmore I'd have no problem with it. Garcia obviously had the off-the-field troubles but what he accomplished here under all the scrutiny he had, impressive.

I would do anything to have a trio like Lattimore/Jeffery/Garcia from 2010. They were one of the best trio's in the country.

I did pick Gilmore though. Helped change the entire image of South Carolina from day 1. Both Garcia and Gilmore did. But Gilmore did it from the get go.



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Stephon Gilmore. I'm not a Garcia-hater but Gilmore helped change the culture to an elite one.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:06 PM   #5
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Of the three here..... Stephon Gilmore
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Of the three here..... Stephon Gilmore
Who else do you think should be up there?
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I picked Garcia, he QB'd us to some of our biggest wins in football history. Then fell on his face when the game mattered. He was an enigma, but he will always be a Gamecock.
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The guy that went #10 in the draft vs. the basket case that can't hack it in the CFL... decisions, decisions
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The guy that went #10 in the draft vs. the basket case that can't hack it in the CFL... decisions, decisions
The best isn't always determined as draft stock or stats. Sometimes what they meant to the program was more important. I voted Gilmore because he was a great guy with a really high draft stock (true), but he also helped changed the image of the program in 2009 when committing here over Clemson and Alabama.

Gilmore did have his flaws here though. Many seemed to think he was never as good as he could've been or was perceived as. I'm not one of those people but there were a good amount of people on this board that blamed a lot of what others would call "busted coverages" on Gilmore.

With that said he picked it up and is going to dominate this poll it seems.

However. Garcia was a big QB pick up at the time. Yes he had his off the field issues and he and Spurrier never really seemed to be on the same page. Yes he was a party animal and the scene of being "Big Man on Campus" may have gotten to him a little (or a lot) but no one can deny what he did as QB of the Gamecocks. You can't really blame his inconsistency on him in 2008 for obvious reason. He did turn it around in 2009 and 2010 though. He was statistically pretty good and had huge wins as the starter against #4 Ole Miss, #1 Alabama. He was also 2-1 as a starter vs. Georgia (only loss was close game in Athens).

Really the ONLY reason this vote is not closer is because of his performance in the bowl games and the start of the 2011 season (one of which no one expected). Had he been prepared like the stories (while rumored) say he wasn't against FSU and had beat FSU given us a 10 win season, Garcia's image may have been changed for the better. The FSU Bowl game, the Iowa Bowl game and the 2011 season really altered this vote.

No one can say that Garcia didn't try on the field though. He was a leader on the field and in the locker room. Even though he messed up a lot off it, all the players always took his side and had his back. Everyone respects a guy like Garcia. They may not like what he did, but he was respected by everyone that played with him.
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I went Stephen Garcia, yes he had his off field issues but when he stepped on that field he was a warrior and threw caution to the wind.
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This was actually a tough decision.

Gilmore changed the culture around here in terms of recruiting and getting the superstars of this state to come here. 10th overall pick in 2012 speaks for itself.

Garcia led us to perhaps our biggest win in program history, was the QB of a team that won our first division title, and was 2-0 against Clemson. If only he wasn't such a bonehead off the field, his list of accomplishments may be significantly longer.

I went Gilmore, but it was close.
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Gilmore changed the culture here. Garcia slowed the progress of said culture change. Gilmore.
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62 total TD's?! Wow. I went with Stephon.
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Garcia a distant third in this debate...where is the terry cousin love? The guy played in the league forever!
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Garcia a distant third in this debate...where is the terry cousin love? The guy played in the league forever!
Because it's best Gamecock to wear the number, not best NFL player. But I agree that he needs a bit more love than he's getting.
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I'd have to go with Garica.

People forget that in 2009 he was our offense. The games we won were because of him. In 2010 he put up pretty dang good numbers. With over 3000 yards and 20 TDs. Something that hasn't been done in 15 years. And hasn't been done since.

But had one of the worst seasons anyone has ever had in in sport ever in his senior season. It was terrible.

Gilmore had a really good 2009. But in 2010 and 2011 constantly got burnt. To the point where at least once a game I was yelling at him cause he gave up a long Pass. Although I did hear it was because he was covering for others mistakes. But it did seem that he got beat a lot. And never lived up to expectations. He was always one of espns impact players before the game started but never never impressed me much as a corner. I always liked him. Even tho I was always yelling at him. It was a love hate relationship. Actually I was doing the same thing with Garcia lol.

But overall i can't see how anyone could pick a cornerback over a quarterback. Garcia actually won us a lot of games, and put up pretty good numbers doing so. Heck in 2009 he had more total yards the. In QB in the sec. Even more than tebow. Gilmore never single handily won us any games.
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If I vote Garcia, do we get to cash in on his employee discount at Taco Bell?
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Gilmore never single handily won us any games.

Neither did Garcia. 14 starters from that year are now or were on an NFL roster at some point including all 4/5 of our defensive backs. (Cully - 49er's Stewart - Rams Holloman - Cowboys Auguste - Browns Gilmore - Bills).

We could debate who won/lost every game from 2009-2011 but that would take to long. I promise you that Garcia was the main factor in very few wins. Not that Gilmore was in any more.
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Terry was an overall better defensive player than Stephon, dude was all over the field and at the ball on every play. Not as many remember him because it's been 20 years and we never had more than 7 wins while he was on the roster. Stephon began the culture change that is the "New Carolina" so by that as an intangible along with his other skills, I went with Gilmore.
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Gilmore had a really good 2009. But in 2010 and 2011 constantly got burnt.
2011 is absolutely untrue and even 2010 gets way overstated. 2011 he gave up the two jump balls vs ecu and only gave up one td and/or big play the rest of the year. which was a 19 yard td vs miss st. i dont think anyone beat him over the top the entire year.

2010 he was inconsistent, but its the blown coverage with him lining up over the receiver vs kentucky who caught the gw td, and the awful auburn game that sticks in everyone's mind. and while he had already had a bad half up until that point, the hail mary wasnt really his fault. i cant recollect who the vols picked on once culliver got injured, but arkansas was going after everyone but him the following week. thats not to absolve him of any of his 2010 mistakes, but it gets blown way out of proportion.

talking about single handedly winning games can turn into semantics, but vs nc state his freshman year he deflected the final pass into the endzone away from the wr. everyone remembers the spark he gave us from the wildcat vs clemson the same year. he didnt force the fumbles, but he had critical fumble recoveries vs georgia back to back years in 2010 and 2011. one that kept them from potentially tying us and the next year keeping us from potentially going down two scores and putting us on the doorstep to taking back the lead.
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