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Old 08-09-2013, 05:26 PM   #1
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I get so conditioned by victory and positive highlight videos that for some reason I suppress our negative plays. Not sure who put this video together but there's a chuckle moment in the middle and it left me hoping that our o-line does a much better job than last year's in helping keep our QBs healthy.
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Old 08-09-2013, 06:22 PM   #2
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yeah our offensive line was pretty bad last year. defenders were running right around them a lot and they just flat out left guys completely unblocked way too often. But the fumbles and coverage sacks are going to happen from time to time. We have to limit them, have to throw the ball away more. We basically left it up the QB to take care of the ball and figure a way to avoid the pressure.
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^^Agree with the above^^
Well alrighty then..the anti pump video ...yeah that definately makes the bad plays look bad...and shows the lack of focus against LSU and Florida and a few other random bad plays thrown in. But you could do that to any team out there if you wanted to..
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A lot of those wouldn't have happened if the ball woulda been out of Shaw's hand. I think our oline got a lot of bad rep last year. But a lot, not all but a lot of the problem was our QBs holding on to the ball to long.

I remember the vandy game a guy there was texting me and was like "dude our guys are running wide open but shaw won't throw the ball"
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We had 3 first year starters on our OL last season with a hurt QB, I expect a big improvement this season, especially in our run blocking. Shaw struggled last season with taking his steps and throwing the ball, and it may have been due to his shoulder. Spurrier is always telling the media he wants Shaw to take his steps and throw the ball. The biggest things for the OL are experience, continuity and depth, and we finally have more of each this season.
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A lot of those wouldn't have happened if the ball woulda been out of Shaw's hand. I think our oline got a lot of bad rep last year. But a lot, not all but a lot of the problem was our QBs holding on to the ball to long.

I remember the vandy game a guy there was texting me and was like "dude our guys are running wide open but shaw won't throw the ball"
That happened in a lot of games last year. Shaw has a lot of work to do.
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That happened in a lot of games last year. Shaw has a lot of work to do.
Well really all he has to do is get rid of it quicker. Something spurrier preaches. He doesn't have the arm to fit passes into tight holes. (Lol) but he doesn't try to anyways. He makes the safe throws. The int he threw at vandy actually his first throw of the season. Before he got hurt was a duck and picked off. But like I said he doesn't force throws much anyways.

So as long as he pulls the trigger he should put up big numbers. Look at Thompson he doesn't have a cannon. He's got a nice arm. But it's not a cannon. And he just drops back and throws. Throws the ball to a spot.
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I agree with the comment about holding the ball too long. It drove me nuts all year. And yet in spite of that and a bunch of other bonehead plays we won 11 games. If we could just cut those bonehead plays in half we might be in the BCS MNC.
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Well really all he has to do is get rid of it quicker. Something spurrier preaches. He doesn't have the arm to fit passes into tight holes. (Lol) but he doesn't try to anyways. He makes the safe throws. The int he threw at vandy actually his first throw of the season. Before he got hurt was a duck and picked off. But like I said he doesn't force throws much anyways.

So as long as he pulls the trigger he should put up big numbers. Look at Thompson he doesn't have a cannon. He's got a nice arm. But it's not a cannon. And he just drops back and throws. Throws the ball to a spot.
Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple. To get the ball out, he has to read the defense, stay poised, and go through his progressions properly and quickly. Shaw is a 1 read and dump or run QB mostly... At least thus far. Just watch his head when he drops back.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:07 PM   #10
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What is the rule for when it's intentional grounding? Looking at some of these plays, is it ok just to turn and throw the ball out of bounds when running to the right or left even if there's no receiver anywhere in the vicinity. Coach used to really get onto Garcia about holding the ball too long. I'd much rather Connor throw it away an entire second early than getting hammered like he did on that video's final play. The body can only take sooooooo much.
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:34 PM   #11
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I guess our opponents work hard too

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Old 08-10-2013, 12:09 AM   #12
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If our OL doesn't show major improvement this year, then it's on Elliott.
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His top comment is "Coots can't take a joke," that means this is most likely a Clemmy or UGA fan. This is a man who, therefore, has no damn room to talk.
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Old 08-10-2013, 02:10 AM   #14
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Well alrighty then..the anti pump video ...yeah that definately makes the bad plays look bad...and shows the lack of focus against LSU and Florida and a few other random bad plays thrown in. But you could do that to any team out there if you wanted to..
Yeah, with any team, like the last three quarters Clemson played against us.
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I remember last year vs Kentucky when Brian Jerideau sacked their QB by nearly driving the QB's feet into the ground like he was planting a fence post.

It happens to everyone. The SEC has ferocious D lines.
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Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple. To get the ball out, he has to read the defense, stay poised, and go through his progressions properly and quickly. Shaw is a 1 read and dump or run QB mostly... At least thus far. Just watch his head when he drops back.
Connor was better about actually going through his progressions (still not great but better) last year than he was the year before...but he still has a ton of work to do.

plus he gets happy feet sometimes, running out of the pocket instead of moving up in it (when there is room) and continuing to make go through his reads. I would imagine that also makes it harder for the oline to block for him considering they never really know where he is.
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I get so conditioned by victory and positive highlight videos that for some reason I suppress our negative plays.
I do the opposite at times which is why I like the pump up vids.

It's cool. I get the joke and it's amusing.

Long time SC fans have generally been a pessimistic (albeit loyal) lot, so the positive stuff really makes me get out of that kind of funk.

When speculating about the upcoming season I think more in terms of "we can't repeat what happened at LSU or UF this year" as opposed to "let's do what we did to UGA or Clemson." Just my take.
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I think I got the comments disabled on this video, lol.
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I think I got the comments disabled on this video, lol.
Just curious, what did you do?
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