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Old 08-14-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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Comstock has been asked many times about whether Winthrop should have a football team, she said, and the question needs an answer as soon as possible.

Most people worry about the cost of a football program, Comstock said, but she’s more concerned with how a team would enhance student engagement and meet expectations of Title IX, the federal law that ensures equal opportunity for men and women in school athletics.

“If we decide, as a community, that football is right for Winthrop, then it would be my job to raise the money to launch the program,” she said.
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Cant figure out why they dont have a team. Could recruit in Rock Hill/Charlotte and build a pretty good team.
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Personally I think College of Charleston would have more support for one (ticket sales, recruiting draw) but space is the issue down there. And Winthrop probably has a better athletic department.
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I grew up in Rock Hill going to WU sporting events and would consider WU teams my "second" team. My family was pretty active in the booster club there, so I feel pretty confident with what I'll say on this topic. There are a lot of hurdles to them getting football: money (biggest hurdle imo), Title IX, student/community support (the hardcore fans of the athletic teams DON'T want a football team).

Without student and community support, I don't see a reason for them to add football. From 1999-2008, they had one of the best mid-major basketball programs and yet they still weren't able to bring in many fans. It got better towards the end of Marshall's time there, but he was basically pleading with the city and WU students to come to the games. I don't see that being any different for football.
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Cant figure out why they dont have a team. Could recruit in Rock Hill/Charlotte and build a pretty good team.
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In an impromptu poll of the Winthrop audience on Tuesday, about half the room raised hands to indicate they don’t think the college needs a football team.

The other half expressed mixed opinions, with many raising hands to say they were unsure about football at Winthrop.

The majority of the crowd applauded when Comstock said a marching band would be a component of adding an Eagle football team.
So the crowd didn't seem too thrilled about a football team but seemed stoked about the idea of a marching band. I hope Winthrop doesn't start a football program just to get a marching band lol
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I grew up in Rock Hill going to WU sporting events and would consider WU teams my "second" team. My family was pretty active in the booster club there, so I feel pretty confident with what I'll say on this topic. There are a lot of hurdles to them getting football: money (biggest hurdle imo), Title IX, student/community support (the hardcore fans of the athletic teams DON'T want a football team).

Without student and community support, I don't see a reason for them to add football. From 1999-2008, they had one of the best mid-major basketball programs and yet they still weren't able to bring in many fans. It got better towards the end of Marshall's time there, but he was basically pleading with the city and WU students to come to the games. I don't see that being any different for football.
Your point about attendance is good, but I wonder if it has to do with the fact it was basketball. Football, especially in the south, is king, so maybe people would be more inclined to attend a football game.

As a proud alumnus of Winthrop, I have mixed feelings about the idea. If it helps the school, I'm all for it, but if it brings nothing to the table other than being able to say, "We have a football team," then I'm against it.

Now if my first alma mater, Lander, were to discuss adding football, I think that would be a mistake, at least at this time.

My third alma mater already has a football program, and I understand they are in the discussion to compete for a national championship.
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Personally I think College of Charleston would have more support for one (ticket sales, recruiting draw) but space is the issue down there. And Winthrop probably has a better athletic department.
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Go for it...I always wondered why they never had one. Def. would bring money to the school.
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Your point about attendance is good, but I wonder if it has to do with the fact it was basketball. Football, especially in the south, is king, so maybe people would be more inclined to attend a football game.

As a proud alumnus of Winthrop, I have mixed feelings about the idea. If it helps the school, I'm all for it, but if it brings nothing to the table other than being able to say, "We have a football team," then I'm against it.

Now if my first alma mater, Lander, were to discuss adding football, I think that would be a mistake, at least at this time.

My third alma mater already has a football program, and I understand they are in the discussion to compete for a national championship.
You're right that support would be marginally better because of it being football. However, the community hasn't been terribly interested in supporting the university's athletics, and I don't see that changing much at all. Regardless, they won't have anywhere near the support needed to not hemorrhage money like most FCS programs.
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The big thing for smaller schools like Winthrop and Lander is that they needs to understand that they have to market their teams if they want attendance to go up, no matter the sport. I have lived in Greenwood my entire life, and, when looking for something for my kids and I to go do, I regularly forget that there is a pretty good college hoops team in town.
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You're right that support would be marginally better because of it being football. However, the community hasn't been terribly interested in supporting the university's athletics, and I don't see that changing much at all. Regardless, they won't have anywhere near the support needed to not hemorrhage money like most FCS programs.
I don't know...I think it might work. It really depends on the success of the program but like he said football is king.

The Rock Hill/ Northwestern games (prior to South Pointe) used to track pretty decent crowds. I know Northwestern/South Pointe was on ESPN a few years ago for Clowney. I think the area could make it work but it could also be a gigantic flop if they go into it half heartedly.
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I don't know...I think it might work. It really depends on the success of the program but like he said football is king.

The Rock Hill/ Northwestern games (prior to South Pointe) used to track pretty decent crowds. I know Northwestern/South Pointe was on ESPN a few years ago for Clowney. I think the area could make it work but it could also be a gigantic flop if they go into it half heartedly.
The success of high school football in the area isn't a good indicator on how an FCS program would fare imo.
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The success of high school football in the area isn't a good indicator on how an FCS program would fare imo.
I agree that is true because the reason for the crowds being so big in the HS scene there is the success of the schools. Ultimately the success of Winthrop's football program would be the same as everywhere else, their success. But the more they are willing to put in the more they will get out. We here know very well how once a program really commits to facilities and whatnot the rest follows.
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We wouldn't have to see those "STILL UNDEFEATED" shirts anymore...
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I mean, it would be cool and all if Winthrop started a football program. Just don't expect me to pretend to be excited when we start playing them within a few years.
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Don't think the support is there. Saturday morning in Charleston options: half naked women on Folly or Furman v CofC at Patriots Point... I would have never gone to a game when I was a student and I love college football as much as th next guy.

60% of that school are kids from outside the state. If they cared that much about football, they would have gone to a school with a football team.
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Don't think the support is there. Saturday morning in Charleston options: half naked women on Folly or Furman v CofC at Patriots Point... I would have never gone to a game when I was a student and I love college football as much as th next guy.

60% of that school are kids from outside the state. If they cared that much about football, they would have gone to a school with a football team.
Valid point. I do however think player wise they could out recruit places like PC, Wofford and probably Coastal just on the draw of the school alone. People love C of C anyone and for so many of my football obsessed friends to end up going there and loving it says a lot. Adding football would only make it better. They also have close to double the enrollment of Wofford.

But of course I don't see either happening anytime soon.
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