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Old 08-14-2013, 08:12 PM   #1
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what do guys see them trying as far as scheme? They will still be high as a kite coming off the LSU game, with 6 sacks and a lot of 3 and outs. However, mettenberger wont be playing in this game. I see them loading the box, with a rush off the edge to start with. At least until the play action bites them with a few long ball completions. Opinions?
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Scheme?

I couldn't name one starter for their defense, so no way I could tell you what scheme they would run.
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I see what you did there...trick question. Clemson has no D.
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uh.. i seriously can't name one person on Clemson's defense other than Justin Parker, and that's only because I remember his recruitment. Does he count?

My theory is they use Justin Parker
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what do guys see them trying as far as scheme? They will still be high as a kite coming off the LSU game, with 6 sacks and a lot of 3 and outs. However, mettenberger wont be playing in this game. I see them loading the box, with a rush off the edge to start with. At least until the play action bites them with a few long ball completions. Opinions?

I think they load the box to try and contain the run but murray goes deep a few times on them. 31-21 UGA.
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Hard to say Dawg. Your team is very balanced on offense so their scheme will have be a "pick your poison". Do you go all out to stop the run and have Murray pick you apart or do you drop guys back into the passing lanes and get slashed by GurShall.

My GUESS would be they will bring pressure between the 20's to stop the passing game and hope that their "team speed" on defense will keep your backs from hurting them too bad. What they will do in the red zone is anybodies guess. If you want to get an idea, go back and watch some of the Oklahoma games when Venables was there. He is running the exact same thing at Tater State that he ran out there.

Hope your team hangs 50 on those scumbags. For week one and week one only "Hunker down you Hairy Dawgs!!!"
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I think they'll load the box at first to test the RB's, If they contain the RB's and force Aaron to throw, they'll attempt to blitz and get burned on it. Shoot man I don't know.
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I smell a lot of screen passes and tight end over the middle. I'm satisfied that UGA will make 6 if they get in the red zone. I may be mistaken, but I believe UGA scored on Alabama every time they got in the red zone last year. Gurley was dragging them into the endzone with him. Clemson ain't no Bama, for sure.

I can not wait for this game. 8-31 please hurry up! to many Clemson buddies in my ear, and it's time to put this baby to bed.
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what do guys see them trying as far as scheme? They will still be high as a kite coming off the LSU game, with 6 sacks and a lot of 3 and outs. However, mettenberger wont be playing in this game. I see them loading the box, with a rush off the edge to start with. At least until the play action bites them with a few long ball completions. Opinions?
Their D-Line is serviceable, but there is not much depth. If nothing else, you'll get to them in the 4th.

Their best linebacker from last year, Willard is gone. If it weren't for him, we would have run for 250 on them. This years group, who knows.

Same for their secondary. It was abysmal last year. They are returning some guys who didn't play last year due to injury, but again, who knows.

If you look at their stats, their D gave up 300 yards per game, while playing virtually nobody. Drop the LSU game, and their best win was Ball State. Murray ought to be salivating. If your O-line can give him a little time, the 15-30 yard routes past the LB's and in front of the DB's will be wide open all night. Ya'll, should use the pass to set up the run. Get the message to Richt to smack Potkins at the line on EVERY down and consistently force Boyd to relocate the pocket and you'll West Virgina them.
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what do guys see them trying as far as scheme? They will still be high as a kite coming off the LSU game, with 6 sacks and a lot of 3 and outs. However, mettenberger wont be playing in this game. I see them loading the box, with a rush off the edge to start with. At least until the play action bites them with a few long ball completions. Opinions?
Hmm, I think Venables isn't stupid enough to not prepare for the PA. Their basic scheme is much more effective against the run then the pass and they are good at LB, however not that strong in the secondary. I think they blitz the LBs a lot for the pass-rush and keep their safeties away from the box. They'll be better at stopping the run without selling out for it, but not great against the pass probably, which would pay dividends with Murray under center. I will say that their D as a whole should be improved with Venables in his second year. Also, if it UGA has to pitch it down field and Clemson can run against the 3-4, I would give Clemson a slight advantage because of the risk of INTs. I think if UGA starts out trying to counter and calm the rush, then establishes the run with OL getting on LBs, Gurley and Marshall will do what they do and embarass the Clemson secondary. As long as the OL is ready and the right plays are in their UGA should win. However, if the run isn't established quarter 1, I think it becomes Clemson's game quick.
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I'm interested to see how UGA's left tackle K. Gates matches up against Clemson's best pass rusher Vic Beasley.
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All I have heard from Clemson fans is about how they beast LSU. I do give them credit for it and it was a big win for their program.

But being objective about it, I have just never thought much about wins in bowl games. Especially not against a team like LSU that doesn't want to play in the Peach Bowl.

Utah beat Alabama.
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All I have heard from Clemson fans is about how they beast LSU. I do give them credit for it and it was a big win for their program.

But being objective about it, I have just never thought much about wins in bowl games. Especially not against a team like LSU that doesn't want to play in the Peach Bowl.

Utah beat Alabama.
If that's the case you need to quit touting the SEC's bowl record and tell your SEC brethren to start scheduling some better OOC opponents.
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If that's the case you need to quit touting the SEC's bowl record and tell your SEC brethren to start scheduling some better OOC opponents.

All of the better opponents are IC though.
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Bowl games are good when both teams have something to play for and something to prove. I think uga hits them with a lot of screens and quick hits to wear them out then bombs them. klimpsun never really showed much of a pass rush last year without blitzing.
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You will not hear me "touting" the SEC's bowl record. I think bowl games are VASTLY overrated when it comes to determining which team is better. Especially bowl games like the Outback bowl and Chick-fil-a Bowl.

I take very little away from the fact that SC beat Michigan in the Outback Bowl. There is no way to know how that would translate into the outcome of a similar game that was played as a conference game. You are very naive to think anything different.

Clemson beating LSU doesn't mean much if you are trying to look at the Chick-fil-a bowl to determine which team is better. LSU doesn't want to play in the Chick-fil-a bowl. That is a no brainer. Hell, Clemson didn't want to be there either. Then, on top of that, you add in the fact that you have a month of off time, you have all of the bowl "celebrations," etc and there is no way you can garner much from a bowl game like that.
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If that's the case you need to quit touting the SEC's bowl record and tell your SEC brethren to start scheduling some better OOC opponents.
The OOC opponent thing when you are talking about a SEC team is the stupidest argument I have ever heard. It is ridiculous.

Look at South Carolina's schedule last year to end out the year...

Georgia
LSU
Florida
Tennessee
Arkansas
Wofford
Clemson..

Now I want you to really stop and think about this for a minute. Take off your orange colored glasses and try to look at it objectively. When the season started Arkansas was a top 10 team. No one could have project Bobby Petrino was going to have a complete collapse. So at the time this schedule was done, Arkansas was projected to compete for the National Championship. So just humor me and go with that for a minute.

So what you are saying is that we should add a team like Oklahoma or Texas into the middle of playing Florida, Georgia, Tenn, LSU, Arkansas, and Clemson???

To think that the SEC teams EVER need to defend their OOC opponents is a joke.
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So thats like half the top ten right? So I guess the other half are SEC teams. Thats a weak argument there.
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To be fair though: Oregon lost to LSU and Auburn, Oklahoma got crushed by aTm and lost to Florida, Ohio State 1-9 against SEC, Louisville did beat Florida but UK and them usually battled in the past.

This is coming from someone who stays pretty realistic about conference affiliation and knows that there are other good squads out there in other conferences. To say SEC teams don't play OOC is not fair they typically schedule at least one big program a year.
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