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Old 08-14-2013, 09:25 PM   #1
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Default Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

Address his terrible 1st down call publicly?

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Old 08-14-2013, 09:42 PM   #2
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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

nah, I couldn't find anything on it...I think it got overlooked because it produced "The Hit" and we still won the game. If we had lost? Oh boy....


I did find this though

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Old 08-14-2013, 09:42 PM   #3
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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

I don't think so. I vaguely remember some other referee from that game being asked about the poor first down call and he said something like, "I don't know what he was thinking."
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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

No, in fact, the Big East came out after the game and said they would not make a statement. There was actually a pretty fair amount of pressure put on them by the media and people and they thumbed their nose at it and refused to respond.

They said "It is our policy not to respond to individual plays......," but the push back from the media was that they had just responded to an individual play in a basketball game. I think it was Kansas vs Iowa and it had something to do with the clock at the end of the game. It was a pretty big game and the Big East addressed the play. But then they said they wouldn't address it in regards to the 1st down.

Personally, I emailed a bunch of people within the Big East office and just asked if they were going to respond. I didn't get a single response from anyone. Not even a reply.


There was even a Fire Jeff Maconaghy facebook page that had some pretty interesting information.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fire-...705467?fref=ts

Finally, I thought the comments from Justice Cunningham were interesting after the game....
"In our heads, it was just us against the world at that point. We had some weird stuff that happened from the coin toss. Something didn't seem right. We were like "OK." At the coin toss, D.J. (Swearinger) said heads and it landed heads and they said you have to say it louder next time. He was like 'what?'"

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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

The phantom first down call was the most ridiculous of the game, but
there were several BLARING holding calls against several members of
our O/Line..... Clowney mainly that were not called, and then there was
the terrible Roughing the kicker call against us where our guy never
touched their punter, and he fell down and got the call.

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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

Probably 99% of calls you could make at least an argument of either "speed of real time play" or the " official did not have he right angle" or a "judgement call". This was none of the above.

No play going on.
Pecect angle of the official
No judgment call.

Still mind blowing how that was missed.
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There especially is no excuse when the referee admitted that HE KNEW IT WAS SHORT. XD
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1. The referee will probably never come out in a public forum to admit his mistake.
2. The officials shouldn't miss much with 7 man mechanics, but it happens
3. If the holding calls happen away from the play to the point where it does not affect the play, no flag will be thrown
4. You can't see everything. Each official has certain duties that he is to watch for. The game moves much faster than you think it does and there is so much to watch for as you are running down the field.
5. If the LJ or Linesman didn't see the foul on his side of the ball, he ain't gonna throw the flag
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There especially is no excuse when the referee admitted that HE KNEW IT WAS SHORT. XD
The referee didn't admit he knew it was short...it was the linesman that said that and he has no overturn authority on the referee
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The phantom first down call was the most ridiculous of the game, but
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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

I felt that that bad call was an example of an attempt to manipulate the outcome of the game. People bet on football. Even referees bet. Was there a payoff?
That was the worse call I've ever seen. The Michigan team was laughing about it on the sideline.
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Did he ever apologize to Vincent Smith?
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I felt that that bad call was an example of an attempt to manipulate the outcome of the game. People bet on football. Even referees bet. Was there a payoff?
That was the worse call I've ever seen. The Michigan team was laughing about it on the sideline.
Judging by his smile, I'd bet it was Brady Hoke who wagered the most.
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I felt that that bad call was an example of an attempt to manipulate the outcome of the game. People bet on football. Even referees bet. Was there a payoff?
That was the worse call I've ever seen. The Michigan team was laughing about it on the sideline.


Yes people bet on football. Even the Refs. In all sports. Pete Rose received a life time ban for betting on his team.
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Default Re: Did the Outback Bowl Referee ever...

I swear that there was an interview on OTL (i think) with that ref (Jeff Maconaghy), and he said he would have made the same call again. I can't find the video though.
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Old 08-15-2013, 12:25 AM   #16
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I hope he doesn't make the same call next time, Clowney might vaporize some poor scat back next time.
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I've never really felt more like there was an actual fix going on than watching that game
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Easily one of the worst calls Ive ever seen in a football game, and in my short 27 years, ive seen ALOT of football.
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