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Old 09-01-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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Default Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

Let me first say that I was at the game last night and was extremely disappointed to hear some fans boo when a UGA player went down (which was a lot), but this video offers up some pretty concrete evidence. Take a look for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKCBKwgkNE

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Old 09-01-2013, 03:30 PM   #2
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Still not as bad as when two Giants defenders dropped like a sniper shot them at the exact same time

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Old 09-01-2013, 03:34 PM   #3
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Don't think that was an attempt to delay the offense. He obviously pulled his Clemson. Lot of Georgia players pulled their clemson last night.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:37 PM   #4
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tater offense isn't nearly as fast as UNC.......
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:39 PM   #5
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Default Re: Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

I literally just got finished posting this in another thread, so I'll just copy and paste it here.

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I hate the fast-as-humanly-possible offense, because it shows the offensive coordinator is essentially scared of trying to match wits with the defensive coordinator. So instead of trying to read a defense and beat them straight up, these teams that use these extremely fast offenses are basically trying to win by catching the defense not lined up or in the middle of substituting. Also, as many have said, a lot of defenses end up trying to play only one scheme, which obviously gives the offense an advantage, so that's probably the best example of how the coordinators who use such a system are basically trying to avoid matching up with a defense.

I guess what I'm saying is if a team wants to show their offense is better than the other team's defense, then let both sides have a chance to call what they feel is their best play and may the better squad win. All this other stuff does is show which team can get lined up faster.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:46 PM   #6
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Default Re: Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

its a counter strategy to snapping the ball before 1. the chains are set 2. the officals are in place, which is crazy as hell because you cant call any sport as on official if you are out of position (I am an umpire and referee) so if these offenses want to use a loophole in the rules for an advantage then the defense should be able to do the same.
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:58 PM   #7
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Default Re: Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

At first the video wasn't working, but I was just gonna assume it was sour grapes... after watching it, that looks pretty obvious.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:00 PM   #8
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Default Re: Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

I think you have to let offenses go pretty fast to keep the purity of the game, but I'd love to see a rule that if you go down holding up the next snap, you have to play the next play with 10 guys, the 11th injured guy must be 30 yards off the LOS, and in the red zone must be touching the goalpost at the snap.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:04 PM   #9
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You are going to see this A LOT against these rapid offenses. Call it what you will but faking a cramp to allow substitution is no different than lining up and quick snapping to get a substitution foul.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:05 PM   #10
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Still classless for Clemson fans to boo an injured player. It happened at least 3 times last night.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:09 PM   #11
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they won't be faking next week. It will be real pain.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:31 PM   #12
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You are going to see this A LOT against these rapid offenses. Call it what you will but faking a cramp to allow substitution is no different than lining up and quick snapping to get a substitution foul.
Yep, here's another one... team is pinned deep. Deep passing play is drawed up and the defender gets beat and he knows it, so he tackles/throws down the wr 30 yds before the ball touches down and trades a long td for a 15 yd pass interference. Believe I saw Auburn do that a few years ago.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #13
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As long as it is legal, I'm all for faking injury to kill fast pace O's. It's a great counter strategy.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:36 PM   #14
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Atleast try to not make it obvious
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:42 PM   #15
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Default Re: Possible truth to defenses faking injuries...

I dont think they were as fast as NC either. I would go as far as saying they don't execute as well either as NC. What they do have is a good quarterback who excels in their offensive system and 1 or 2 great skill players. Their offensive line is not that good. Average at best. An elite defensive front can easily disrupt that offense. Too gimicky. Gimicky does not work in big games or elite teams. Fun to watch though.Waay too early to be crowning them.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:43 PM   #16
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Counter-stragety....hey it slows a offense down, why not? No rules that says it can't be done.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:46 PM   #17
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I'd do it too. lol. The college game is waay to gimicky.
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Old 09-01-2013, 05:52 PM   #18
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My thinkings is this. The guys need a sub, the offense doesn't want to let you do it. Screw them. If that is what you go to do get a sub, they should do it. Don't just let them have their way.
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:01 PM   #19
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Really don't have a problem with it. I think the overly fast tempos are dangerous for the health of players, especially the defenders, so fine with this counteraction. I have no problem with uptempo teams just as I don't see players, who need a sub so they don't get hurt because of fatigue, faking cramping to get off the field.
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I think you have to let offenses go pretty fast to keep the purity of the game, but I'd love to see a rule that if you go down holding up the next snap, you have to play the next play with 10 guys, the 11th injured guy must be 30 yards off the LOS, and in the red zone must be touching the goalpost at the snap.
You think allowing the offenses to not let the defense substitute promote the "purity of the game," whatever that means, but you don't think having 10 v 11 football does not? That is ridiculous. I say, the rule should be, spot the ball and give defenses 10 seconds for subs before you start the play clock. and reduce the play clock by 10 seconds. There is nothing, "pure" about this hurry up offense. It's a loophole for the offense that should be closed.
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