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Old 09-06-2013, 08:27 PM   #1
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I am nervous as hell about this game and I was pretty confident up until Waldrop went each day and wasn't getting back out to practice. So here are my questions.

1. Is Stadnik that bad right now? I am serious about this question. Shawn Elliot has changed his tune this week because he has to support our players. So this week, he has said that he has confidence in Stadnik. But I, along with many others of you, heard Elliot just a couple of weeks ago when he basically laughed when a reporter asked him about Stadnik. I can't remember his exact comments, but they were not positive.
2. Spurrier said last night that Knott may end up getting playing time. So again, is Stadnik that bad that now they are potentially moving on to Knott? I don't even know anything about Knott.
3. Am I thinking too much into this? I usually don't let this stuff get to me because I kind of follow Spurrier's mindset that you plug the next guy in and go play. But it almost seems like we don't have a guy on the roster after Waldrop that is even close to being a SEC caliber player (at this point).

PS - I know I am the one that always defends our players and now it sounds like I am bashing one. I don't mean it that way at all. I don't know that we could expect much more out of him. He is only a freshman and he has no experience. But on the other hand LSU played some freshman against us last year that did pretty well. So could Stadnik surprise us or is he really really behind the curve right now??
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:30 PM   #2
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Default Re: Question about Stadnik..

Personally, I think you're overthinking it CofC. Someone will step up and manage the spot. If we have to get creative, I'm sure Elliott will figure something out.
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Stadnik got that slam from Elliott at the beginning of camp. Since then he's made comments to the effect that he's doing OK. There's not one thing you can change by worrying about it, so best to tune in tomorrow and see who trots out there.
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Personally, I think you're overthinking it CofC. Someone will step up and manage the spot. If we have to get creative, I'm sure Elliott will figure something out.
Thanks! I hope so. I feel pretty confident about our chances otherwise. But it just seems like we have gone from having a SEC caliber lineman (Waldrop) to a high school one in one week.

But I am probably just buying into the comments too much this week. Also, it just made me nervous when I heard Elliot kind of laugh about the backup guys a couple of weeks ago.

If that one position doesn't impact the game too much then I feel pretty good.
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:42 PM   #5
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I am nervous as hell about this game and I was pretty confident up until Waldrop went each day and wasn't getting back out to practice. So here are my questions.

1. Is Stadnik that bad right now? I am serious about this question. Shawn Elliot has changed his tune this week because he has to support our players. So this week, he has said that he has confidence in Stadnik. But I, along with many others of you, heard Elliot just a couple of weeks ago when he basically laughed when a reporter asked him about Stadnik. I can't remember his exact comments, but they were not positive.
2. Spurrier said last night that Knott may end up getting playing time. So again, is Stadnik that bad that now they are potentially moving on to Knott? I don't even know anything about Knott.
3. Am I thinking too much into this? I usually don't let this stuff get to me because I kind of follow Spurrier's mindset that you plug the next guy in and go play. But it almost seems like we don't have a guy on the roster after Waldrop that is even close to being a SEC caliber player (at this point).

PS - I know I am the one that always defends our players and now it sounds like I am bashing one. I don't mean it that way at all. I don't know that we could expect much more out of him. He is only a freshman and he has no experience. But on the other hand LSU played some freshman against us last year that did pretty well. So could Stadnik surprise us or is he really really behind the curve right now??
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Waldrop's whipping his tail right now. He's beating the fool out of him. Right now, [Waldrop's] not even in the conversation. Unless he turns it around, it may be a true freshman backing him up.

http://www.garnetandblackattack.com/...-running-backs
That was August 7th. He has improved since then, but thats the one position I was concerned with from a depth perspective coming out of camp.
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That was August 7th. He has improved since then
... A month?
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:15 PM   #7
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The way I think about it is that c Stadnick must be good enough for them to start him because if he wasn't they would move Cann to C and play Sport or B Stadnick at G.
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The way I think about it is that c Stadnick must be good enough for them to start him because if he wasn't they would move Cann to C and play Sport or B Stadnick at G.
Thanks Page! That makes sense and helps me feel a bit better.
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The way I think about it is that c Stadnick must be good enough for them to start him because if he wasn't they would move Cann to C and play Sport or B Stadnick at G.
My thoughts exactly. I'm simply hoping for him to hold his own and get off good, clean snaps.
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Default Re: Question about Stadnik..

He's had since last week to work with the #1s. No way the coaches let him go on the field tomorrow without being as ready as he can.
We've had a lot of guys step up the past few years....maybe Clay can as well?
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The way I think about it is that c Stadnick must be good enough for them to start him because if he wasn't they would move Cann to C and play Sport or B Stadnick at G.
not really....it's too different a position for anyone to learn in a week.....Clayton will be fine....if the coaches were that concerned about him, then they would have moved someone else there a month ago....
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:41 PM   #12
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not really....it's too different a position for anyone to learn in a week.....Clayton will be fine....if the coaches were that concerned about him, then they would have moved someone else there a month ago....
Good point.. Thanks. You are right in that our coaches are thinking about depth, etc all the time. I am sure they didn't sit around the desk at a coaches meeting and say "well, Clayton really has no chance of being effective at center, but we are just going to pray Waldrop doesn't get hurt."

Maybe Elliot was just trying to push him when he said those things about him a month ago. Hell, maybe he was just pissed off at him on that day.

I guess I will just hope for the best.
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Good point.. Thanks. You are right in that our coaches are thinking about depth, etc all the time. I am sure they didn't sit around the desk at a coaches meeting and say "well, Clayton really has no chance of being effective at center, but we are just going to pray Waldrop doesn't get hurt."

Maybe Elliot was just trying to push him when he said those things about him a month ago. Hell, maybe he was just pissed off at him on that day.

I guess I will just hope for the best.
Plus they can use him to double on the defensive lineman depending on where they line up. So he won't necessarily be singled on their NT every play.

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Lining up at a "zero technique" means the DL lines up right over the Center's nose. Moving outward, the even numbers mean lining up directly over an offensive lineman, so 2 is right over the guard, 4 over the tackle, and 6 over the tight end.

The odd numbers mean a DL lines up on the outside shoulder of a lineman. A 1-technique means lining up just to one side of the center, 3 technique on the outside shoulder of a guard, and 5 technique on the outside shoulder of a tackle. Lining up on the outside shoulder of the tight end is actually a 9 technique, and the inside shoulder of the TE is a 7 technique."
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Default Re: Question about Stadnik..

I believe we will see Waldrop the majority of the game...I believe we will see issues w the snap early with Stadnik and Waldrop will play the majority of the game at less than 100 percent obviously but SOS won't lose a game bc we can't snap the ball
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First College game in Athens....Dear Lord, Please help this kid. Loud stadium, snap counts screwed up, rattled, under/over thrown balls :/ Oh boy.......I hope you're ready C.Stad
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I am worried about their size difference. Clay is 281 while Waldrop is 319. That is a lot to give up.
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this kid....Clayton is older than Cody....he be fine....
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Clemson's center is about same size as Stad and I think he won ACC Olinemen of the week. He'll be fine.
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this kid....Clayton is older than Cody....he be fine....
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Time for Stadnick to step up his game. I hope he does well.
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