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Old 09-08-2013, 07:17 AM   #41
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After re watching the game, I noticed a bunch of our players were talking crap but not backing it up. It doesn't work like that and it makes you look ignorant. Just saying.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:21 AM   #42
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After re watching the game, I noticed a bunch of our players were talking crap but not backing it up. It doesn't work like that and it makes you look ignorant. Just saying.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:37 AM   #43
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We could lose 4-5 games with that defense.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:43 AM   #44
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Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia: 17-for-23, 309 yards, 4 TDs

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Our defensive coordinator's gameplan sucked plain and simple. He had the CBs line up deep on every single play. He should've had them jamming the WRs at the line of scrimmage to mess up their timing with Murray. When you have the CBs that deep, the WRs can run quick slants underneath all night just like they did. You also put more pressure on the safeties who played awfully.

On top of that we couldn't get our D-line to hold the point of attack which let them run without much issue.
I think all the hype went to our D coaches, too. Not just the players.

Whammy needs to reconsider his strategy moving forward.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:04 AM   #47
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Gave up crucial plays all night. GA picked up that 4th and 12 - no d. Freakin 4 and 12! That 3rd and long late in the 4th, deep in GA territoy, and they scored an 85 yard TD, come on man! OK - GA has the ball on their own 6 inch line - we still have a chance - just freakin hold em and get the ball back deep in their territoy. NOPE - their move it down the field and shove it up our d's arse.

This defense, unless something changes, reminds me of when Spurrier first got here.

Our offense looks very good, and (knock on wood) the special teams are looking sound as well. Last thing I expected is for our d to be this pathetic. I really hope this is one of those times when things look worse than they really are.
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On sports center they just said Aaron Murray said "that play was not in the game plan I was afraid people would not know their assignments" in regards to the 3rd and 13 big TD. So they can execute plays they don't practice but we can not execute plays we practice.
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Most telling stat so far this season?

Game one: Renner, on third down, 11-12, 6 first downs

Game two: Murray, on third down, 6-7, 4 first downs, 1 td

Won't win very many games like that.
This. Especially disheartening considering pass rushing DL is supposed to be our calling card.
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The lb's and db's better learn fast. They are a huge problem right now. Not covering good, not helping the line in run def. I put a little too much faith in all the talent talk before the season and really misjudged the inexperience. #4 (Christian I think) looked absolutely lost all night and made some huge mistakes.
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:48 AM   #52
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The bottom line is we've seen time and time again this soft zone is a bust especially on third down. You just can't play 5 yards off a receiver and expect to make plays and get 3 and outs consistently.
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Wasn't Ward supposed to be more aggressive? I don't get it...we saw Clemson play aggressive and took it to them most of the night. Clemson gave us a great plan to go with, but we used another strategy...play soft and don't cover.

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Old 09-08-2013, 11:47 AM   #54
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That's one thing i noticed as well.We played very very soft on their receivers.Also so the d-line didn't get the push they normally would.Overall the defense looked like ass and Adams and Botkin getting heated probably says a lot.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:13 PM   #55
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Personnel capable of winning an SEC title?... We don't have it. It doesn't matter who is doing the coaching, there's just too much collective youth and inexperience out there. We have no experienced leadership out there in the back 7, and we're just witnessing the beginning of a frustrating season, defensively speaking.
Last year, we had Shaq Wilson managing the middle of the field, getting the D-linemen in the right position, as well as himself and Bowens in the middle, and we had DJ Swag managing the secondary, making sure everyone was on their assignment, and jumping people's shit for being out of position/not making the play.
I knew better than to express any confidence that this group would just automatically step up and fill in the gaps left behind by last year's seniors, and it's a shame that so many on this board are acting like our D's poor performance against such a deep and experienced offense is a "surprise" and that "coaching" is our problem.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:25 PM   #56
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Carolina D is an embarrassment right now.
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:57 PM   #57
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Personnel capable of winning an SEC title?... We don't have it. It doesn't matter who is doing the coaching, there's just too much collective youth and inexperience out there. We have no experienced leadership out there in the back 7, and we're just witnessing the beginning of a frustrating season, defensively speaking.
Last year, we had Shaq Wilson managing the middle of the field, getting the D-linemen in the right position, as well as himself and Bowens in the middle, and we had DJ Swag managing the secondary, making sure everyone was on their assignment, and jumping people's shit for being out of position/not making the play.
I knew better than to express any confidence that this group would just automatically step up and fill in the gaps left behind by last year's seniors, and it's a shame that so many on this board are acting like our D's poor performance against such a deep and experienced offense is a "surprise" and that "coaching" is our problem.
Looking back, I should have felt the same way. We lost so much attitude and leadership last yr.
My hope is that these guys were buying their own hype and now,after getting drilled by UGA , have been humbled.
The d will only get better as the season goes along. We r young and played a very good offense with the best rb in the country, and solid sr qb. We will not face a better offense until Clemson, and that is at home. I am confident that our defense will make adjustments, the back 7 will find leaders and now play with a fire bc they have been humbled a bit. Some keys will be forcing some to's and getting some third down stops( which is why we lost, IMO ).
We may not win sec bc we can't stop an Alabama or lsu style o, but 9-3 or 10-2 is not off the table, which is not bad at all with the youth we have.
It sucks but we will get better
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On sports center they just said Aaron Murray said "that play was not in the game plan I was afraid people would not know their assignments" in regards to the 3rd and 13 big TD. So they can execute plays they don't practice but we can not execute plays we practice.
Not much to execute when somebody lets you run right by him down the sideline. They could've drawn up a play in the dirt and still scored on that.
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The bottom line is we've seen time and time again this soft zone is a bust especially on third down. You just can't play 5 yards off a receiver and expect to make plays and get 3 and outs consistently.
5 yards? More like 8 is what I saw.
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Press coverage all game on their receivers and we win the game. Simple as that.
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