Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this?

SteveWalsh4Canes · 09-08-2013, 11:05 AM

When SOS said that he wasn't happy with the defensive performance and that he would make some "suggestions" to the Def. Coordinator to "help him out", AND that he would make sure that the Cocks defense didn't just "stand around out there" like they did on Saturday...well....is that not kinda a scathing indictment of his DC? I mean, anytime a HC (especially one who knows nothing about defense) talks about "helping out" his DC by making a few "suggestions" to him and then implies that the defense did nothing but "stand around out there", I would say that the DC's days might be numbered. Do any of ya'll agree or am I reading too much into things?!

ACPhilson · 09-08-2013, 11:10 AM

Maybe....

Thing is, our Defense should not look this bad, with the kind of players we have on this team. Which tells me, that they are not being coached up properly. No reason to have 2-3 people on Clowney, and no one else on the line gets pressure on Murray.

No reason for our DB's, freshman or not, to be so awful. They gave up on many plays, lets UGA receivers get behind them way too easily. This is a coaching thing, not a lack of talent. It seems a lack of motivation as well.

Our Defense ate some humble pie yesterday. We shall see next week if they liked the taste of it or not.

westcoastspur · 09-08-2013, 11:11 AM

No. But you have a point. Stevie Wonder could see our defense lacked creativity.It should be fixed quickly tho.

GamecockDad1531 · 09-08-2013, 11:12 AM

In recent memory, any time Spurrier has said that he would spend some time helping coach a specific defensive unit during the week after a bad performance, each time that position coach was not a member of the staff come next season. Not saying that will happen with Ward, but it's happened two or three times since HBC has been here. It's more likely that a position coach will lose his job, cough Deke Adams cough Grady Brown cough. HBC loves Ward.

gamecock88 · 09-08-2013, 11:12 AM

Reading too much into it. Bobo did out coach ward yesterday on nearly every possession. They waited for the d to set up, called a play to counter it and executed. D play calling was very vanilla and predictable and too easy for uga and Murray. We are expecting the DL to be disruptive and that isn't the case right now. Murray is a rhythm passer and we did nothing to break that and shake him up.

SpecOps Cock · 09-08-2013, 11:14 AM

yeah Deke or Brown may not be here next year. Can we knock of Lawing wife or pay here to leave Columbia to get him back... I kid I kid :(

SC SWAMPFOX · 09-08-2013, 11:15 AM

It seems we always believe we have a good D coordinator, only to see the same crap like last night. There is no exscuse for looking that bad on D. The east was laid out for us but now for the 3rd straight year our fate is in someone else's hands. What do you do though? It seems all our decent coaches leave all the time. Then we hire subpar coaches that fight on the sideline.

henmania · 09-08-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveWalsh4Canes

When SOS said that he wasn't happy with the defense performance and that he would make some "suggestions" to the Def. Coordinator to "help him out", AND that he would make sure that the Cocks defense didn't just "stand around out there" like they did on Saturday...well....is that not kinda a scathing indictment of his DC? I mean, anytime a HC (especially one who knows nothing about defense) talks about "helping out his DC by making a few suggestions to him" and then implies that the defense did nothing but "stand around out there", I would say that the DC's days might be numbered. Do any of ya'll agree or am I reading too much into things?!

Reading too much into to it. We gave up big points inathens in 2011 and 2009. Ellis didn't get fired.

Rh Gamecock · 09-08-2013, 11:19 AM

Yea lets fire him after one bad game. Whoever was running the offense should of been fired a couple times last year.

SC SWAMPFOX · 09-08-2013, 11:21 AM

Sp. teams punked us in 09

jhaze7683 · 09-08-2013, 11:21 AM

reading too much into it.

SteveWalsh4Canes · 09-08-2013, 11:29 AM

GamecockDad, seems like you understand what I was getting at in my original post. It just seems to me that when SOS tells the media that he is going to start getting more involved with the Defensive game planning...well...that doesn't bode well for the defensive coaches. Kinda implies that they need special "help" discharging their duties.

U-S-C till i D-I-E · 09-08-2013, 11:31 AM

I wouldn't say his days are numbered. I would say this will be a very serious week at practice.

cockypanther · 09-08-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveWalsh4Canes

When SOS said that he wasn't happy with the defensive performance and that he would make some "suggestions" to the Def. Coordinator to "help him out", AND that he would make sure that the Cocks defense didn't just "stand around out there" like they did on Saturday...well....is that not kinda a scathing indictment of his DC? I mean, anytime a HC (especially one who knows nothing about defense) talks about "helping out" his DC by making a few "suggestions" to him and then implies that the defense did nothing but "stand around out there", I would say that the DC's days might be numbered. Do any of ya'll agree or am I reading too much into things?!

You're such a bad troll. By Spurrier saying he would make some suggestions to Coach Ward he is not implying Ward will be fired. That is a moronic thought.

gin house · 09-08-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by henmania

Reading too much into to it. We gave up big points inathens in 2011 and 2009. Ellis didn't get fired.

The difference is we won with the defense. The 2011 defense scored over 20 point to win the game.

geromeo77 · 09-08-2013, 11:35 AM

Great points fellas but I would take him over Ellis any day. The players shouldn't have to be babysitted. They should self adjust and have to perform and at times it seems like they give up!

conwaycock2 · 09-08-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SC SWAMPFOX

It seems we always believe we have a good D coordinator, only to see the same crap like last night. There is no exscuse for looking that bad on D. The east was laid out for us but now for the 3rd straight year our fate is in someone else's hands. What do you do though? It seems all our decent coaches leave all the time. Then we hire subpar coaches that fight on the sideline.

Sorry that's not correct. Our fate the past 3 years has been solely in our own hands. Last year even after the loss to LSU, we win in Gainesville & we're SEC East champs. Year before that (I think) our loss to a bad Auburn team ended up killing us. This year is different, now we must run the conference table & hope UGA loses 2.
You're spot about 2009 ST's killing us....namely Brandon Boykin

Lonnie · 09-08-2013, 11:40 AM

Sometimes you just play flat. Thats what hapoened yesterday.

gin house · 09-08-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cockypanther

You're such a bad troll. By Spurrier saying he would make some suggestions to Coach Ward he is not implying Ward will be fired. That is a moronic thought.

I tell you what. Im a Gamecock fan and always will be. I dont think he was implying that Ward would be fired but from what i heard in short he may have been saying he doesnt know what hes doing? What kind of confidence does SOS have in a defensive CO that he has to give "Suggestions" to? I wonder if he actually has lost a little confidence in Whammy? That defense looked horrible. What i watched last night 8 rows up on the 50 yard line looked like a Clemson or UGA defense.....It wasnt what im used to watching. This year will tell what Whammy and the others are made of. Last year was IMO still a Johnson/Lawing defense with Shaq the vocal leader, and DJ, Holloman and all the rest of Ellis defensive recruits that are gone.

Take-a-Knee · 09-08-2013, 11:40 AM

Coach Ward is a good coach

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09-08-2013, 11:05 AM	#1
SteveWalsh4Canes Banned Male Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Simpsonville, SC Posts: 292 CockyCash: 500	Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? When SOS said that he wasn't happy with the defensive performance and that he would make some "suggestions" to the Def. Coordinator to "help him out", AND that he would make sure that the Cocks defense didn't just "stand around out there" like they did on Saturday...well....is that not kinda a scathing indictment of his DC? I mean, anytime a HC (especially one who knows nothing about defense) talks about "helping out" his DC by making a few "suggestions" to him and then implies that the defense did nothing but "stand around out there", I would say that the DC's days might be numbered. Do any of ya'll agree or am I reading too much into things?! Last edited by SteveWalsh4Canes; 09-08-2013 at 11:21 AM..

09-08-2013, 11:10 AM	#2
ACPhilson Really hates Orange Teams Male Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Columbia SC. Posts: 13,613 CockyCash: 899700	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Maybe.... Thing is, our Defense should not look this bad, with the kind of players we have on this team. Which tells me, that they are not being coached up properly. No reason to have 2-3 people on Clowney, and no one else on the line gets pressure on Murray. No reason for our DB's, freshman or not, to be so awful. They gave up on many plays, lets UGA receivers get behind them way too easily. This is a coaching thing, not a lack of talent. It seems a lack of motivation as well. Our Defense ate some humble pie yesterday. We shall see next week if they liked the taste of it or not. __________________ RIP Fiesty and C-Girl

09-08-2013, 11:11 AM	#3
westcoastspur Walk On Male Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Posts: 40 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? No. But you have a point. Stevie Wonder could see our defense lacked creativity.It should be fixed quickly tho.

09-08-2013, 11:12 AM	#4
GamecockDad1531 Game MVP Male Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,544 CockyCash: 200	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? In recent memory, any time Spurrier has said that he would spend some time helping coach a specific defensive unit during the week after a bad performance, each time that position coach was not a member of the staff come next season. Not saying that will happen with Ward, but it's happened two or three times since HBC has been here. It's more likely that a position coach will lose his job, cough Deke Adams cough Grady Brown cough. HBC loves Ward.

09-08-2013, 11:12 AM	#5
gamecock88 All Everything Male Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SC Posts: 5,958 CockyCash: 2301172	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Reading too much into it. Bobo did out coach ward yesterday on nearly every possession. They waited for the d to set up, called a play to counter it and executed. D play calling was very vanilla and predictable and too easy for uga and Murray. We are expecting the DL to be disruptive and that isn't the case right now. Murray is a rhythm passer and we did nothing to break that and shake him up.

09-08-2013, 11:14 AM	#6
SpecOps Cock Banned Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: The Bluff Posts: 1,448 CockyCash: 200	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? yeah Deke or Brown may not be here next year. Can we knock of Lawing wife or pay here to leave Columbia to get him back... I kid I kid :(

09-08-2013, 11:15 AM	#7
SC SWAMPFOX Sly Fox Male Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Inman Posts: 223 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? It seems we always believe we have a good D coordinator, only to see the same crap like last night. There is no exscuse for looking that bad on D. The east was laid out for us but now for the 3rd straight year our fate is in someone else's hands. What do you do though? It seems all our decent coaches leave all the time. Then we hire subpar coaches that fight on the sideline.

09-08-2013, 11:19 AM	#9
Rh Gamecock Two Deep Male Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rock hill Posts: 1,109 CockyCash: 200	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Yea lets fire him after one bad game. Whoever was running the offense should of been fired a couple times last year. __________________

09-08-2013, 11:21 AM	#10
SC SWAMPFOX Sly Fox Male Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Inman Posts: 223 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Sp. teams punked us in 09

09-08-2013, 11:21 AM	#11
jhaze7683 4-Star Male Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Decatur, Georgia Posts: 429 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? reading too much into it. __________________ "Walk on. Walk on, with hope in your hearts, and YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE..."

09-08-2013, 11:29 AM	#12
SteveWalsh4Canes Banned Male Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Simpsonville, SC Posts: 292 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? GamecockDad, seems like you understand what I was getting at in my original post. It just seems to me that when SOS tells the media that he is going to start getting more involved with the Defensive game planning...well...that doesn't bode well for the defensive coaches. Kinda implies that they need special "help" discharging their duties.

09-08-2013, 11:31 AM	#13
U-S-C till i D-I-E 4-Star Male Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Dirty South Posts: 308 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? I wouldn't say his days are numbered. I would say this will be a very serious week at practice. __________________

09-08-2013, 11:35 AM	#16
geromeo77 Walk On Male Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Laurens Posts: 81 CockyCash: 500	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Great points fellas but I would take him over Ellis any day. The players shouldn't have to be babysitted. They should self adjust and have to perform and at times it seems like they give up!

09-08-2013, 11:40 AM	#18
Lonnie Band Male Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Third Stone from the Sun Posts: 9,982 CockyCash: 499	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Sometimes you just play flat. Thats what hapoened yesterday. __________________ "Physical is a state of mind." - Coach Will Muschamp

09-08-2013, 11:40 AM	#20
Take-a-Knee 1st Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: upstate SC Posts: 4,681 CockyCash: 10000	Re: Are Ward's days numbered or am I reading too much into this? Coach Ward is a good coach

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