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Old 09-09-2013, 09:49 AM   #1
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Default No leadership on Defense

DJ is gone, Shaq is gone, Holloman is gone. After watching the game Saturday I just don't see alot of leadership and fight and fire our Defenses from the past years have had. If our secondary would of given up those 3rd downs after 3rd down you better believe Swearinger would of lit into someones ass.

I know our LBs are young and it doesn't appear Clowney our Sutton are very vocal at all. I thought maybe it could be Hampton or Quarles but idk.

Maybe I'm off base here maybe it's just our LBs and Spurs are undersized and not well matched for a power run team like UGA. Also the confusion in our secondary especially our safeties looked horrible! I expected Gurley to have a few mistakes but Brison has looked bad. Also Legree and Christian looked very very average at CB.
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Old 09-09-2013, 09:55 AM   #2
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It's really a shame that Clowney isn't more of a vocal leader. Oh well...
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Default Re: No leadership on Defense

Agree...maybe my main concern going into this season....mental toughness of younger players when getting beat by older and more physical players. I'm not surprised by what happened except on our DL.

On the opposite side of the ball....look at our offense...
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It's really a shame that Clowney isn't more of a vocal leader. Oh well...

Not everyone is made out to be vocal leaders. You didn't see Marcu jump up in people's faces and do things like DJ used to do, but yet people say Marcus was the best leader we've ever had. It's not all about being a vocal leader.

I agree that we need someone that can jump somebodys ass when they screw up, but expecting Clowney to do EVERYTHING is just a bit much.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:04 AM   #5
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Default Re: No leadership on Defense

Yes we miss their leadership. I don't know who's gonna be that guy to step up this year. But somebody needs to.

But ya know we also miss their talent and experience. Our D had NFL talent in the secondary last year. (Holloman not only had significant playing time in a Week 1 NFL game last night, he also had a fumble recovery)

I think this D has the potential to be as good as last years just needs some time. Really was tough with all our youth at LB and secondary and their second game ever was at Athens playing against best Offense in SEC

Saturday can't get here fast enough. We need to get this nasty taste out of our mouth. And yes, I agree somebody needs to step up and be a leader.
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Default Re: No leadership on Defense

You're right, a good defensive front kept the middle of the field pretty much contained but the power sweep to the strong side was continually effective. Also, no real pressure was applied to Murray on passing downs to get us off the field. Move Clowney to mid LB and let him do whatever Clowney feels like doing.
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Not everyone is made out to be vocal leaders. You didn't see Marcu jump up in people's faces and do things like DJ used to do, but yet people say Marcus was the best leader we've ever had. It's not all about being a vocal leader.

I agree that we need someone that can jump somebodys ass when they screw up, but expecting Clowney to do EVERYTHING is just a bit much.
Agreed. Not everyone is made out to be a vocal leader. It's those really special players that play 100% every down, contribute to the leadership of their team, and have sick talent. Does anybody have that combination of superlatives on the team this year?
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Default No leadership on Defense

I knew we were going to miss Swearinger.

Clowney is the best talent on the team. I don't expect him to do everything; football is a team sport.

Regardless, it's disappointing that his intangibles have been poor through two games. He doesn't need to be a vocal leader, but he needs to lead by example.

If not Clowney, then who? The core of those back-to-back 11 win teams are gone. New leaders have to emerge on both sides of the ball.
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We're going to have to blitz the hell out of people to disguise our issues at LB and the Secondary.
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We're going to have to blitz the hell out of people to disguise our issues at LB and the Secondary.
If Whammy doesn't figure that out soon we might lose ALLOT more games this year. I'm really interested to see how this team responds to getting smacked in the mouth.
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I bet practice today will be brutal
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I bet practice today will be brutal
It should be for the defense. The offense did their job for the most part. Anytime you score 30 points, you should win.

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If Whammy doesn't figure that out soon we might lose ALLOT more games this year. I'm really interested to see how this team responds to getting smacked in the mouth.
I can understand why he tried to win with our line on defense. Clemson had their way with UGA's o-line by rushing 4 men at a time. However, as the game went on and it became apparent that this wouldn't work, he should have adjusted. I'm sure he will adjust accordingly as the year goes on.
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I T totally.... agree. I just don't see it unfortuntley. Our linebackers are so young and Light. How can you fix this overnite? We had so many missed tackles, misassignments, no leaders on D.....has Whammy checked out? Usually....especially the last few years, we have made our adjustments at halftime or during the course of the game and stop/contain pretty much everything they are trying to do....I am very worried about our D.
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No big plays on defense. That one pressured lob coulda been picked. Game changer.
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Old 09-09-2013, 11:34 AM   #15
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Sutton, Quarles, and Brison Williams were supposed to have huge years and so far they have done nothing! They are behind guys like Skai Moore in tackles. I don't even think they are in the top 10 on the team in tackles.
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The coaches knowing that the LB corp would be undersized this year. What happen with Kelvin Rainey playing LB? I thought from reading all reports he was excelling at his new LB postion....at least he is 6 3' and 225 or so.
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Probably true, but when the secondary is getting burned a lot, they're going to get more tackles.
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we actually did a good job of containing the run in the 2nd half up until that playaction 20+ yard gain they had to the fullback and at that point we were pretty much done. what killed us in the 2nd half was the 3rd down conversions on obvious passing downs.

at this point we've just got to make better calls on defense and hope everyone gets on the right page. i question the leadership too, but i think that will ultimately be determined in the next game and the coming weeks, bad games happen. now how will we respond. obviously theres no cure all, but im hoping ced cooper gets back and brings some consistency and leadership to that defense.
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they need to shut up and start letting their play do the talking. no one has lived up to their mouths.
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Mason Harris and Darius English both need a medical redshirt along with a regular redshirt in order for there bodies to build out....my gosh they are light. It seems Devin Taylor arrived very light his first year and he redshirted and I think. he had a medical redshirt as well? And look what happen to him his jr and Sr year at Carolina....he blew up physically!
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