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Old 09-13-2013, 12:54 PM   #1
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UPDATE 3: Boyd wasn't alone when he carried the victim back to bed. Quarterback Austyn Carta-Samuels and tight end Dillon van der Wal were there as well. Boyd met later with the players involved to discuss the incident.
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Of course he does. They are giving boyd a reduced charge and he may play against us according to the article. Although i doubt they let boyd play for awhile.

I find it interesting that the other guy was named dillion van der wal. Was it a van der wal who supposedly abducted that girl in Bermuda or wherever?
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i have a feeling boyd wont play against us
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Nevermind me. That was van der sloat or something.
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Of course he does. They are giving boyd a reduced charge and he may play against us according to the article. Although i doubt they let boyd play for awhile.

I find it interesting that the other guy was named dillion van der wal. Was it a van der wal who supposedly abducted that girl in Bermuda or wherever?
No, that was Van Der Sloot. Not sure about the exact spelling but that name sounds like it would be spelled that way. Van Der Sloot is in prison now for murdering a different young lady in his hotel room a few years ago.
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Nevermind me. That was van der sloat or something.
Yeah the Aruba mess was Van Der Sloot.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:27 PM   #7
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Default Re: Does Vandy QB play?

I think the title of this thread is a good question. The starting Vandy QB is Quarterback Austyn Carta-Samuels. Boyd alleges he helped carry the alleged rape victim back to the alleged rapists' room. That is a pretty serious allegation that might warrant accessory charges against him, but the prosecutor says none are planed to be brought at this time.

Doesn't sound like Franklin is going to issue any discipline against his starting QB. My guess is that he will play in our game but might get suspended later if the national media turns up the pressure.

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Then let's hope Clowney has his way with him.
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Then let's hope Clowney has his way with him.
Or at least plays an entire series.
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I know Clowney needs to get his ASS rolling!
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Franklins a shady dude. Unless they are charged I doubt he sits them.
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Franklins a shady dude. Unless they are charged I doubt he sits them.
Look at it from Franklin's perspective: his career is on the line, he pretty much needs his QB.

He doesn't have any proof that the QB knew he was really doing something wrong. Of course I personally believe the QB should be punished for participating in what went down, but without any real details, how can I say for sure he deserves it?

I think Franklin is between a rock and hard place. What do you did you really expect him to do?
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Of course he does. They are giving boyd a reduced charge and he may play against us according to the article. Although i doubt they let boyd play for awhile.

I find it interesting that the other guy was named dillion van der wal. Was it a van der wal who supposedly abducted that girl in Bermuda or wherever?
That was Van Der Sloot.
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Look at it from Franklin's perspective: his career is on the line, he pretty much needs his QB.

He doesn't have any proof that the QB knew he was really doing something wrong. Of course I personally believe the QB should be punished for participating in what went down, but without any real details, how can I say for sure he deserves it?

I think Franklin is between a rock and hard place. What do you did you really expect him to do?
The outcry about it may overshadow him. The Vandy Administration may take action on it if the national public outcry increases. Keep in mind, that it looks like the Vandy QB and some other dudes picked up an unconscious woman and brought her back to the room of a guy that at least one of the three knew had sent video of a rape. The situation could spin out beyond Franklin's control.

Certainly, the VAndy QB actions that night make the MORON controversy the media is currently blowing up, seem relatively trivial.
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The outcry about it may overshadow him. The Vandy Administration may take action on it if the national public outcry increases. Keep in mind, that it looks like the Vandy QB and some other dudes picked up an unconscious woman and brought her back to the room of a guy that at least one of the three knew had sent video of a rape. The situation could spin out beyond Franklin's control.

Certainly, the VAndy QB actions that night make the MORON controversy the media is currently blowing up, seem relatively trivial.
I have noticed that some people are already starting to ask questions on twitter. A lot of "why is the Vandy QB allowed to play" kind of stuff? On twitter, it doesn't take long for the pressure to start building up. If just one reporter or columnists asks the question, then it will take off.

Here are some examples in just the past hour or so. If these start getting re-tweeted, it will be an issue for Vanderbilt. These are just two, but they are starting to grow. I posted these two because they both come from local writers/reporters in Tenn.

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Wow...Boyd got off pretty light I'd say...Also Why is Carta Samuels still playing. He helped move the victim!

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Still playing?! "#Vandy QB Austyn Carta Samuels & TE Dillon van der Wal helped move the alleged rape victim"
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He should sit until he is cleared... Period!!
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Yep. NCAA football is not a right. Due process does not apply. There is no doubt that a crime happened and all implicated should not play until they have been cleared. If there was a supposed crime but not known for sure I would say play but because the crime is not in question just whose involvement I say sit
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Franklin and Vanderbilt have the ability to roll the dice here. Is it worth the risk? It would be a big win, but what if he plays and we still blow them out? I think they play him and keep playing him until he actually get's charged. The only way this situation could be worse for them is if their starting QB doesn't get to play. Either way there is no salvaging how bad this looks. The ship has sailed might as well the roll the dice because it can't be much worse.
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Think it is telling when another school removes one of if not their best players from the team because he pleaded not guilty and now a person has taken a plea deal and will testify. Yet Vanderbilt allows this guy to play.
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Franklin and Vanderbilt have the ability to roll the dice here. Is it worth the risk? It would be a big win, but what if he plays and we still blow them out? I think they play him and keep playing him until he actually get's charged. The only way this situation could be worse for them is if their starting QB doesn't get to play. Either way there is no salvaging how bad this looks. The ship has sailed might as well the roll the dice because it can't be much worse.
The prosecutor already said that he has no plans to charge anyone else. Boyd was charged (probably) because he deleted the video (destroyed evidence) and advised the dude that sent it to do the same. He also was interviewed and was initially deceptive with the police. That tends to piss off the State.

There is no indication the Vandy QB and TE lied to the police or advised destruction of evidence (boyd). Thus, no charges are likely to be brought.

That will not stop the media from asking about it. It was not a morally right thing to do and the scrutiny will continue most probably. I don't think the Vandy starting QB is going to skate with the media now that this is out. In fact, it will probably be blown way out of proportion.
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