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Old 09-14-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:15 PM   #2
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Default Re: 20 years later, what is the FINAL verdict on this guy?

Even talking to former players there's no consensus on Sparky. Some guys liked playing for him way more than Brad Scott. Would have been interesting to see if his time would've been different had the administration not turned down a bowl bid in 1989 and 1990. Given his coaching career since then, I guess the likelihood is that it might not have turned out much different.
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Loved him for his enthusiasm and he coached through some very memorable games, but overall, he was not ready to be a head coach.
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Default Re: 20 years later, what is the FINAL verdict on this guy?

Might have had more success if he had been willing to make changes with his staff while coaching at USC. His coaching career is not over. He is in his sixth year as head coach at VMI.
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Loved him for his enthusiasm and he coached through some very memorable games, but overall, he was not ready to be a head coach.
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He was over his head.
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:45 PM   #8
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He was over his head.
What I've heard for years. Still, there were Gamecock club people who loved him...he was a likeable guy.

Considering the conditions on which he was hired, he really shouldn't be judged the same as the rest of our HBCs.
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Was in way over his head. Wasn't King Dixon the AD that hired him? That dude sucked too.
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Was in way over his head. Wasn't King Dixon the AD that hired him? That dude sucked too.

Yes it was King Dixon and yes he sucked, King Dixon that is.
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Some say he wasn't given enough time. He had very good teams at App State and won a national title there is not mistaken. He coached us to a win in Athens his first season and Ellis' last. Todd Ellis went down with a knee injury the week after we beat Georgia, I was there and if that had not have happened, who knows how that season would have went We never should have turned down those bowl bids, no matter how small they were.
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days. Brought some good players to USC and developed a big group of
them. He remained too loyal to members of his staff however who were
not good coaches, or undermined Sparky's plans for the program because
of their own agenda. Had he gotten a few good assistant coaches around
him, I think he could have been much MUCH more successful as a head
coach here, and lasted a lot longer. His recruiting is evident in the fact
that Brad Scott had his best season at USC in his first season with a
heavy senior and junior laden team with Sparky's recruits. After that,
Scott went steadily downhill every single season after his first year.
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Some say he wasn't given enough time. He had very good teams at App State and won a national title there is not mistaken. He coached us to a win in Athens his first season and Ellis' last. Todd Ellis went down with a knee injury the week after we beat Georgia, I was there and if that had not have happened, who knows how that season would have went We never should have turned down those bowl bids, no matter how small they were.
1989 - NC State was 3 games after Georgia. We were 5-1-1 when Todd Ellis was injured.
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King Dixon was awful...absolutely set the program back years. I remember he called an emergency meeting at The Roost at 600am right before the Gulf War....walked in....yapped about doing the right things, etc. and then said, "men this country is about to go to war....you better be ready because your country is going to be calling on you!" then he turned and quickly excited the room. very strange dude! Thought he might pull out a M16 after that

Sparky was ok...in over his head....liked him up until the Sunday night after Todd got hurt vs. NC State. we had scouting report....remaining teams FSU, NC, and Clemson. I quote...he actually said "we don't need to worry about FSU....work towards beating NC and Clemson." Never ever ever ever do you say that IMO no matter who your team is...EVER. I'm sure he got paid the week of FSU....lots of respect lost right then. Lost to FSU, beat NC and then got blasted by Clemson. After Todd was hurt, we really didn't have a QB.

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I have heard former players say they liked him and other that hated him. I heard some defensive players say that Sparky was nuts and they played for Aldridge.

He had a good class when he started, with Ellis a QB. He also had a bad break because the 89 recruiting class was decimated due to Morrison's death, and the Steroid scandal at the time. It was a weird time at Carolina. We turned down bowl bids, which I am sure we were probably asked about when we joined the SEC. Probably something like, "Hey, welcome aboard. We don't turn down bowl bids around here."

Sparky lost some bad games, such as Kentucky and tying Duke. He couldn't get over the hump.
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Sparky was and still is a Division 1-AA coach. Unfortunately for us, that is what our program became with him at the helm. He never should have been hired, but he was all we could get, as Joe Morrison died at a most inopportune time.
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