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Old 09-14-2013, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default Mistakes and a bad bounce - not bad D

A pass Dylan hung too high (and bad pursuit on the int).
A fumbled kickoff.
A mistake on a punt.

The linebackers didn't seal assignments and got fooled several times (and a spur missed arm tackle). More work needed.

We didn't finish about 4 drives after the second quarter.

A few penalties. Even a hold called in the SEC. A freshman gets an unsportsmanlike.

The OL blocked well, run and pass.
Shaw played well - and smart.
A TE dropped a couple.

Messy, but not bad D.
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:01 AM   #2
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Your correct not bad D but were simply not the same defense we have been the past 2-3 years. The drop off is not significant but it's very noticeable
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A pass Dylan hung too high (and bad pursuit on the int).
A fumbled kickoff.
A mistake on a punt.

The linebackers didn't seal assignments and got fooled several times (and a spur missed arm tackle). More work needed.

We didn't finish about 4 drives after the second quarter.

A few penalties. Even a hold called in the SEC. A freshman gets an unsportsmanlike.

The OL blocked well, run and pass.
Shaw played well - and smart.
A TE dropped a couple.

Messy, but not bad D.
The only play that disappointed me was the one when vandy ran it for 15 yards & a td right up the gut. Before the play our entire defense was clearly confused, so why not call a timeout?
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Old 09-15-2013, 12:11 AM   #4
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I was also glad to see Quarles have the heads-up game he did. He had good stats and was a force when he was in there (FR, sack, batted pass).
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Old 09-15-2013, 02:40 AM   #5
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The only play that disappointed me was the one when vandy ran it for 15 yards & a td right up the gut. Before the play our entire defense was clearly confused, so why not call a timeout?

That wasn't the only one. We had a few plays where our D was looking to the sideline for a "call" and by the time Vandy snapped it our D did not even have a play in. Crappy coaching!!

Get it together Whammy and crew. I have defended you many times until tonight (check my track record) but parts of tonight were UNACCEPTABLE!! Plain and simple.
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We were spoiled by Ingram, Taylor, Robertson, Culliver, Gilmore, Swearinger, Smith and all those vocal guys who would put the smack on people.
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We were spoiled by Ingram, Taylor, Robertson, Culliver, Gilmore, Swearinger, Smith and all those vocal guys who would put the smack on people.

We need a damn on the field leader. Clowney is awesome, but he is too quiet to be a leader. B Williams was the closest thing I saw tonight, he was visibly upset at times. I hope he continues to lead!! We need it!!
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:34 AM   #8
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We were spoiled by Ingram, Taylor, Robertson, Culliver, Gilmore, Swearinger, Smith and all those vocal guys who would put the smack on people.
Add in AA, Devonte, Byron, Shaq....all older more mature players....some were 4th & 5th yr players.
We've got a bunch of 1st & 2nd yr players.

Our experience & maturity is over on offense....
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:44 AM   #9
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I'm very concerned about the defense. Any big, physical team that lines it up and comes right at us is going to be a problem. I don't know about UCF (they probably do,) but I do think TN, Arky, MSU, FL and Clemron all have the large and physical personnel to give us serious challenges.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:31 AM   #10
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The only play that disappointed me was the one when vandy ran it for 15 yards & a td right up the gut. Before the play our entire defense was clearly confused, so why not call a timeout?
Agreed... if we look lost, call a time out. Spurrier is somewhat stingy with time outs. He want's them for his offense. He really doesn't like his DC burning them.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:39 AM   #11
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Dylan's int wasn't a bad throw it was a great play by the defender. They guy peeled off his man and doubled back behind the wr. That was a great play. But for no one to be able to tackle him for 65 yards with that many people around was bad
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You can't blame the defense for most of what went wrong tonight.

A)When Dylan threw the pick, the offense failed to tackle, not the defense. Vandy started at the 1 yard line.
B)The defense didn't do a good job, but a 54 yard FG is improbable.
C)After Clowney caused the fumble, the offense had a holding, and a false start penalty, followed by an 18 yard punt. Vandy had a short field to start, but I guess we can put that on the defense, even though they had previously caused a turnover that the offense squandered???
D)Fumbled KO return. Vandy starts at the 19. Again a short field, and maybe tired defense.
E)Offense punts again and flips the field on Vandy. The defense holds, but the punt hits one of our players and Vandy almost scores. Defense holds and gets another turnover.

I'm not going to put this on the defense. The special teams deserves the majority of the blame, and then the offense deserves the next part of the blame for giving the defense a short field to work with. Anybody can make a yard and most teams can make 19 yards, although, in fairness, we act like we never saw the wildcat before....Arkansas?
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:07 AM   #13
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glad to see a lb finally tip a ball. special teams were awful. im glad to see the offense put up big yardage and a good point total consecutive weeks. at the same time if one is going to complain about the defense not playing well in the 2nd half then look at the 2nd half offense too. 6 pts last week, 7 pts this week.
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:07 AM   #14
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I feel that the team played their heart out tonight. They had some bumps that made it difficult. At the beginning everything just went smoothly to the almost boring atmosphere. The students left thinking we would be putting another 21 points on. Then it happened. The uphill drive, the fumble, the short punt, etc. I am glad we won and the team earned the win. We know just as with every game that we have a lot to work on to get to the level they would like to become. Hope we keep winning the rest of the year. Mistakes and all go with it.
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Dylan's int wasn't a bad throw it was a great play by the defender. They guy peeled off his man and doubled back behind the wr. That was a great play. But for no one to be able to tackle him for 65 yards with that many people around was bad
Going to disagree with you... Thompson floated that ball up there... But yeah, the return ( the lack of tackling) was chitty
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Going to disagree with you... Thompson floated that ball up there... But yeah, the return ( the lack of tackling) was chitty
Dylan didn't think the defender was going to come back off that deep route. Had he pump faked the deep route or pumped the underneath and gone deep, wither would have been open.
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The interior defensive line is pitiful.. No push, no excuse! They got to get meaner!! Period! The talent is there! But I'm starting to think our dline coach isn't SEC caliber. I'm really disapointed in the DT's. sorry guys but if them 2 spots don't get better then we will have a long yr. they just aren't mean enough


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DT throws a pic: It wasn't his fault, they player made a great play. He hung the ball up there because he thought he had plenty of time.


CS throws a pic: Get him out of there, I just don't get it. He shouldn't be the QB out there.


Cracks me up.


Special teams were bad. Defense broke down at times, and did well at times. Apparently, we played a perfect team as they had no penalties called. Yeah..whatever.
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Entire D still looks slow including Clowney. I couldn't believe how well Vandy contained our pass rush or just let Clowney run right past the play. They looked better early on but that was more due to Vandy being bad than the D playing better. I do agree with the OP that DTs pass was bad and he got caught up in how easy things were to that point and forced a bad throw. The fumbles on special teams gave Vandy momentum and completely changed the complexion of the game. We should have easily scored 49 points on them but stupid and bad decisions kept it much closer.
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Your correct not bad D but were simply not the same defense we have been the past 2-3 years. The drop off is not significant but it's very noticeable
I'm on the same page as you. No since in really arguing semantics but to me the drop off is significant although I certainly get your point & most definitely agree that right now we are not the defense we've been accustomed to seeing. I'm hoping some of the alignment issues & miscommunication problems will be worked out over the open date. That will make us better immediately but quite frankly I also see a dip in sheer talent from years past. Combine that with youth & the very inconsistent play we've seen shouldn't really be a surprise. Anybody who sees this as a potentially dominating defense is looking at something I don't see. Very pleased with the offense.
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