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Old 09-14-2013, 11:47 PM   #1
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Please put him on returns because really what do we have to lose? Carson fumbled on a kick return, Bruce got lit up for not calling a fair catch on a punt return, and whoever our returner was on the punt that bounced off of our blocker gave no signal that he wasn't going to catch it. He was electric in high school so give him a shot he can't screw up as badly as our special teams screwed up today without trying to.
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Our kick/punt returns are an absolute joke this year. Shon Carson back there is a disaster. He NEVER makes it past the 25. Vic is way too reckless back there and honestly isnt a great returner either. Bruce is our best bet I think, but even he got mashed not calling a fair catch tonight.
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Aside from the one bad non-FC decision, Bruce has been good on returns the past 2 years.

I'd like to see Cooper on punts, Bruce on kicks.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:58 PM   #4
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Carson doesn't need to do returns going forward. He hasn't done anything to advocate for him to continue that duty. I think Whitehurst should get a shot.
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Agree with whitehurst
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Aside from the one bad non-FC decision, Bruce has been good on returns the past 2 years.

I'd like to see Cooper on punts, Bruce on kicks.
I agree, but lean more toward Whitehurst getting some kickoffs (speed matters more there) and Bruce needs a break. Hopefully we field a lot more punts than kickoffs.
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Carson has 8 returns for 142 yards, an average of just under 18 yards per return. That's not acceptable
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I agree, but lean more toward Whitehurst getting some kickoffs (speed matters more there) and Bruce needs a break. Hopefully we field a lot more punts than kickoffs.
Vision is WAY more important than speed.
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I agree, but lean more toward Whitehurst getting some kickoffs (speed matters more there) and Bruce needs a break. Hopefully we field a lot more punts than kickoffs.
Who knows if Whitehurst would be good or not but speed means nothing if you don't have vision or a good feel to go with it. Look at Carson - he's not doing poorly because he's slow...

Hell the worst part of his fumble wasn't even the fumble, it was the fact that he ran right into the blockers and defenders instead of running to open space.
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Our kick/punt returns are an absolute joke this year. Shon Carson back there is a disaster. He NEVER makes it past the 25. Vic is way too reckless back there and honestly isnt a great returner either. Bruce is our best bet I think, but even he got mashed not calling a fair catch tonight.
Even Ace had that happen to a bunch. We have to go with Bruce, you can tell he is the only one who knows what he is doing even if he never breaks any real long ones.
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At least Bruce held on to the ball after the no fair catch hit and you have to give him credit for tying to make something happen, although it was a bad decision at the time. A lot guys would coughed that one up.

Our blocking, or lack there of, seems to be a bigger issue on ST's right now.
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Piss poor blocking AND lack of vision = CRAP returns.

The KRs need a complete overhaul.
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Who knows if Whitehurst would be good or not but speed means nothing if you don't have vision or a good feel to go with it. Look at Carson - he's not doing poorly because he's slow...

Hell the worst part of his fumble wasn't even the fumble, it was the fact that he ran right into the blockers and defenders instead of running to open space.
Agreed. It's not the speed. Carson has tunnel vision which he has demonstrated on every one of his KO returns. His speed may be better utilized on the diamond.
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Just take a knee and get it at the 25. What is so hard about that?
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Shaq Roland? I'm curious as to why he hasn't had an opportunity, given his resume. Until he becomes more prominent in the passing game, let's give him a couple of looks.
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Someone called coach Robinson is getting paid to teach and position the ST to be effective and efficient in positive ST contributions to the Gamecock squad. However, All I've seen this young year is that the ST productivity has been unacceptable. I think he's either forgotten how to be a coach or the right hot fire hasn't been close to his behind. Here is hoping SOS lights him up now rather than later. At the least, all of us Monday night QBs will have something better to discuss here. Go Cocks!!!

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Carson doesn't need to do returns going forward. He hasn't done anything to advocate for him to continue that duty. I think Whitehurst should get a shot.
The Whitehurst idea may work.
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Special teams guys continually make bad decisions this year. Whether that be running blindly into blocked guys to fumble, fielding punts or blocking. Disappointed in special teams play all around and the lack of good decision makers on the field. Bruce is one tough dude but fielding that punt without fair catch was stupid. Almost as stupid as Carson returning a kick right into a blocked defender only to fumble. Communication on the punt where a blocker touched the ball to turn it over was terrible as well. Bad bad stupid decisions kept Vandy in this game much more than bad D play.
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Carson has absolutely no vision! Kane/Cooper need a shot. Idk why, I mean Kanes footage looked pretty good IMO. I don't get it
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I don't think coaches trust Kane enough at this point. Ellington is our best KR guy.
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