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Old 09-16-2013, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default Are we being too hard on Deke?

We're only 3 games into his tenure here at Carolina, and soooo many times I see "wish we had lawing" "maybe lawing will come back" "lawing was so much better" ....its sort of annoying to me...give the guy AT LEAST a season or two before we burn him at the stake? I'm sure Lawing wasn't at the level he was at when he left SC in his first year in the SEC....lets all just breath and give him a chance.
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In short, yes. The man needs to be able to have time to get a feel for the way Ward likes to call his defense, then Adams can adjust his line calls accordingly. We've already seen Adams get confused during one play against Vanderbilt (which isn't good), so give the man a little more time before passing judgment. If similar issues remain by the time we get to week 7 or 8, then I think there's a legitimate problem.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:36 PM   #3
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In short, yes. The man needs to be able to have time to get a feel for the way Ward likes to call his defense, then Adams can adjust his line calls accordingly. We've already seen Adams got confused during one play against Vanderbilt (which isn't good), so give the man a little more time before passing judgment. If similar issues remain by the time we get to week 7 or 8, then I think there's a legitimate problem.
Weren't you calling for his firing Saturday?
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Default Re: Are we being too hard on Deke?

Time yes, however it is never good when the head man is chewing into you becasue you drop the best rusher into coverage
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Weren't you calling for his firing Saturday?
I don't think so, but if I did, then I must've suddenly taken up drinking alcohol, because I definitely don't remember it.
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Default Re: Are we being too hard on Deke?

No. We should fire him, then tar and feather him, and have him shamefully walk out of the state with children throwing rotten vegatables at him.

Seriously, "we" are definitely being too hard on him! We have a young defense and the d-line is not even the issue. It is mostly the linebackers and d-backs who, by the way, are showing signs of getting better IMHO.
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Yes. Too early to judge him (fully.)

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Default Re: Are we being too hard on Deke?

Absolutely! The man's a professional... let him work!!

Seriously, he is learning Spurrier and Ward's ways and will incorporate these in with his current knowledge and skill set. It take TIME!
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When you get hired by a SEC program you should not need a learning curb or a couple of years to get used to this league...Sorry but that is the way I see it....We don't have a couple of years to get our defense back to were it was...We have the best offense we have ever had and the D needs to get it together now.....
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Default Re: Are we being too hard on Deke?

no... i think he was a bad hire. i say we fire Deke, promote ward to assistant coach and hire Bud Foster. best move ever in carolina's history
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The problems have been the young lbs imo. Deke is catching a bit too much blame so far imo.
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We're only 3 games into his tenure here at Carolina, and soooo many times I see "wish we had lawing" "maybe lawing will come back" "lawing was so much better" ....its sort of annoying to me...give the guy AT LEAST a season or two before we burn him at the stake? I'm sure Lawing wasn't at the level he was at when he left SC in his first year in the SEC....lets all just breath and give him a chance.
Yes, because apparently there are MANY on this board who have forgotten about the years under Lawing where we were run roughshod over consistently by multiple teams.

Its funny how people only remember the last couple of years under Lawing.
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Deke is going to be fine. You cannot blame him for every run that gets past the 1st level looking bad because of the weak second level. Teams are running plays designed to get to the second level. (quick screens, power sweep, pow tosses). We are running a dime defense guys. A DIME any way you look at it.
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no... i think he was a bad hire. i say we fire Deke, promote ward to assistant coach and hire Bud Foster. best move ever in carolina's history
Not to nit pick... but wouldn't Ward being moved to assistant coach be a DEMOTION?
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Not to nit pick... but wouldn't Ward being moved to assistant coach be a DEMOTION?
absolutely not. assistant coach is right under spurrier. second in command. i say keep ward on board because he is a hell of a recruiter. bringing in Bud Foster would be tremedous. the guy is the best defensive coordinator in college football.
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absolutely not. assistant coach is right under spurrier. second in command. i say keep ward on board because he is a hell of a recruiter. bringing in Bud Foster would be tremedous. the guy is the best defensive coordinator in college football.
Technically, they're all assistant coaches. I believe you're talking about assistant HEAD coach, or possibly head-coach-in-waiting.
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absolutely not. assistant coach is right under spurrier. second in command. i say keep ward on board because he is a hell of a recruiter. bringing in Bud Foster would be tremedous. the guy is the best defensive coordinator in college football.
Oh! And about Bud Foster; are you Talking about the same Bud Foster whose defenses have allowed CU's offense to run wild on Virginia Tech? If so, I'll pass.
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Technically, they're all assistant coaches. I believe you're talking about assistant HEAD coach, or possibly head-coach-in-waiting.
yes, thats what i meant. spurrier likes whammy to much to can him. hell, i like whammy to. i just know that there are better defensive coordinators out there that can fill in nicely. one of those is Bud Foster. he's shown interest again. we need to hire him like today
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Oh! And about Bud Foster; are you Talking about the same Bud Foster whose defenses have allowed CU's offense to run wild on Virginia Tech? If so, I'll pass.
same defense that got 4 sacks against bama with a very depleted defense? yeah... that Bud Foster
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