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Old 09-26-2013, 02:11 AM   #1
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take money for his likeness autograph? It occurs to me he has plenty of money to pay to go to T a&m and the argument he gets a scholarship to play would no longer be valid....your thoughts.
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take money for his likeness autograph? It occurs to me he has plenty of money to pay to go to T a&m and the argument he gets a scholarship to play would no longer be valid....your thoughts.
I can't quote the rule or anything, but the evening guy on 107.5 talked about this a few weeks ago. The answer is no. If the player is on the team, whether he/she is getting a scholarship or not, they are under the same rules as everyone else.
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I can't quote the rule or anything, but the evening guy on 107.5 talked about this a few weeks ago. The answer is no. If the player is on the team, whether he/she is getting a scholarship or not, they are under the same rules as everyone else.
I think the OP is talking from an argument standpoint, not what the actual rule is.

Every time someone says players should be able to accept money, there are hoards of other people who foam at the mouth, saying "they get a scholarship! that should be enough! i wish i had gotten a scholarship!!!"

So, if that was no longer the case...what would those zealous anti-capitalist proponents say?
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it's about his amateur status as an athlete in the NCAA, doesn't matter if he's getting money from the school or not.
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it's about his amateur status as an athlete in the NCAA, doesn't matter if he's getting money from the school or not.
Oh, man...that 'amateur' status. Classic!

Go ask Michael Roth about how they were amateurs as they got off the bus in Omaha, only to be hounded by grown men for their autographs who turned around and sold those autographs.

Amateurs my ass.
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Oh, man...that 'amateur' status. Classic!

Go ask Michael Roth about how they were amateurs as they got off the bus in Omaha, only to be hounded by grown men for their autographs who turned around and sold those autographs.

Amateurs my ass.
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Popularity or notoriety does not equate to being a professional at something.
I wasn't speaking to popularity or notoriety, I was speaking to people profiting off of 'amateurs'

But, best not let those amateurs profit off of their own likeness! #'Merica
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I wasn't speaking to popularity or notoriety, I was speaking to people profiting off of 'amateurs'

But, best not let those amateurs profit off of their own likeness! #'Merica
I agree with your point, but I was addressing the fact your previous post implied that because a person is famous (or infamous) or popular, that the person wasn't an amateur, which is false. But as I said, I agree with your over-arching point.
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You must be considered an amateur to play college sports ... scholorship athlete or not
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The question asked is not should but could.

The NCAA wouldn't allow it whether he's on scholarship or not
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I wasn't speaking to popularity or notoriety, I was speaking to people profiting off of 'amateurs'

But, best not let those amateurs profit off of their own likeness! #'Merica
I'm sick of people saying they do not profit, they know exactly what they are getting when they sign the bottom line, how did they become victims? No disrespect to you and I will apologize up front for the rant, I just happen to read yours while on a soap box.
Every company or organization in America has a small group making the majority of profits and a large group making them the money, I played college athletics and I was not a victim at all and I played at one of the smallest colleges in America to field a football team. We received free tuition, a value of almost 350K at the time. Free room and board, free tudors, free unlimited weight room access to a very fine weight room with protein shakes and food available as well as a free meal plan that allowed me to eat 4 times a day at 3 different cafeterias. I received shoes, warm ups, school supplies, books, and we lived in a coed dorm, it was a tough life! I drove a piece of crap car and got gas money under the table on a few occasions and I never had to buy a drink or look far for companionship.
If you let the weak, ignorant minority overwhelm the majority of players who will never make a dollar playing football outside of college then you will let them ruin a fine game. Look at the Olympics and then look back when all Olympic athletes played for the love of the game and the thrill of victory for there country before we let Russia, Germany.... ruin all that and change the rules so we could keep up.
It is a shame we give up trying to police the game and instead give it away to the greedy few who would not have even thought of this if not for the media and a few grown men who are trying to profit of it.
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