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Old 10-05-2013, 11:58 PM   #1
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honestly if you look at the game, i dont think its coaching anymore. Its 11 players wanting to be the superstar of the team. there is no cohesion on this team. Vic hampton is selfish and wants a pick every play so he makes stupid decisions. The linebackers are too antsy to get the tackle so they dont fill their gaps. The defensive line are not maintaining their gap integrity, and the dbs dont know how to tackle. So quit blaming the coaches. They may be doing everything they can, its the players that wont listen. Next week, i think you see some completely new players in positions on Defense. Im not saying the performance will be any better, but i do think there will be different players in some spots.
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:01 AM   #2
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honestly if you look at the game, i dont think its coaching anymore. Its 11 players wanting to be the superstar of the team. there is no cohesion on this team. Vic hampton is selfish and wants a pick every play so he makes stupid decisions. The linebackers are too antsy to get the tackle so they dont fill their gaps. The defensive line are not maintaining their gap integrity, and the dbs dont know how to tackle. So quit blaming the coaches. They may be doing everything they can, its the players that wont listen. Next week, i think you see some completely new players in positions on Defense. Im not saying the performance will be any better, but i do think there will be different players in some spots.
sounds like bad coaching and bad coaching decisions to me.
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Good luck with this one. Made the same thread 30 minutes ago and it was deleted for "Not opening this up for debate"
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Really looking like a major lack of talent (not to mention poor coaching), which is concerning going forward. Legree and Hampton have their moments, but who on the D, particularly the back seven, actually looks like a top-tier SEC caliber starter. It's difficult at this moment to name a single player that would fall into that category and to get excited about.
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adjustments... never heard of it
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if you look at the DB's we are fielding right now.. all but one are four star talents. lol.
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This. There are no adjustments made. If something's not working they just keep doing it over and over again.
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if you look at the DB's we are fielding right now.. all but one are four star talents. lol.
Certainly wouldn't know it when you see them play.
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They don't look very well coached to me.
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honestly if you look at the game, i dont think its coaching anymore. Its 11 players wanting to be the superstar of the team. there is no cohesion on this team. Vic hampton is selfish and wants a pick every play so he makes stupid decisions. The linebackers are too antsy to get the tackle so they dont fill their gaps. The defensive line are not maintaining their gap integrity, and the dbs dont know how to tackle. So quit blaming the coaches. They may be doing everything they can, its the players that wont listen. Next week, i think you see some completely new players in positions on Defense. Im not saying the performance will be any better, but i do think there will be different players in some spots.
sounds like things that should be taught by coaches. At the end of the day, they recruit the guys, they coach them, they are responsible for the product we see on the field.
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honestly if you look at the game, i dont think its coaching anymore. Its 11 players wanting to be the superstar of the team. there is no cohesion on this team. Vic hampton is selfish and wants a pick every play so he makes stupid decisions. The linebackers are too antsy to get the tackle so they dont fill their gaps. The defensive line are not maintaining their gap integrity, and the dbs dont know how to tackle. So quit blaming the coaches. They may be doing everything they can, its the players that wont listen. Next week, i think you see some completely new players in positions on Defense. Im not saying the performance will be any better, but i do think there will be different players in some spots.
The attitude and play if the D starts with its D Cord and rolls down. The talking trash and trying to blow up a player vs making a solid fundamental tackle are just a couple of examples. Add the selection of some poor assistant coaches on the D and you have the Defense we have now. It will not get better this year.
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sounds like things that should be taught by coaches.
very true, however, i dont those things are just neglected in practice.. what is killing us.. we have no DJ, no holloman, no shaq, no devin... we are just not the same team.
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Our linebackers just don't commit to gaps, they wait for the runners to get there, then it's too late. Jimmy and Vic are playing fine. It's the guys that have to make decisions that are basically choosing to wait and run down ball carriers after they've crossed the line. No one knows how much coaching has to do with this, so let's lay off on that end, until at least a few quotes can be thrown into the discussion.
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very true, however, i dont those things are just neglected in practice.. what is killing us.. we have no DJ, no holloman, no shaq, no devin... we are just not the same team.
I agree with THAT, it is what I was worried about. Not enough star power in our defense right now. I'm shock at our saftey play. really I thought that would be a strength not an achilles heel.
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I thought Vic was OK, but honestly hes TERRIBLE. I honestly can not believe he can be this bad with so many years in the program already.
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More than defense, we're ****ing up on Special teams. Isn't it 28 points that have been given up this year that were followed by botched Spec Team plays?

They're not helping our defense at all maintain good field position. We can't punt worth a shit, and nobody can seem to figure out that they aren't good enough to consistently get 25 yards rather than take a touchback.

We need new guys in there, the bench is the best teacher until some of the players learn.
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As down as the talent has been on defense, I can't believe that it can't at least match the talent on Kentucky, UCF, and Vanderbilt offenses. Somewhere, the problem lies with the coaching.
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they are making the same mistakes they made the first game of the year.
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I wonder if our scout team runs stuff against our defense that keeps killing us. Do they attack our weaknesses like any team that has seen our film is going to do? Does the scout team run quick throws and WR screens with 2 blockers? Do they run slants against our linebackers? Do they attack the middle with doubles on the dlinemen knowing the MLB won't fill? If we prep against the other teams' offenses, but don't get reps against the stuff that's gashing us, we are not going to correct that stuff. We might find that with our weaknesses at spur and LB, some 5 DL (50) might work when needed to stop first down plays. We might get some better LB and DB play.

We need to fix the stuff we suck at, not just prepare for what the upcoming opponent did against other teams before they saw our film.
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I wonder if our scout team runs stuff against our defense that keeps killing us. Do they attack our weaknesses like any team that has seen our film is going to do? Does the scout team run quick throws and WR screens with 2 blockers? Do they run slants against our linebackers? Do they attack the middle with doubles on the dlinemen knowing the MLB won't fill? If we prep against the other teams' offenses, but don't get reps against the stuff that's gashing us, we are not going to correct that stuff. We might find that with our weaknesses at spur and LB, some 5 DL (50) might work when needed to stop first down plays. We might get some better LB and DB play.

We need to fix the stuff we suck at, not just prepare for what the upcoming opponent did against other teams before they saw our film.
Kinda hard to prepare for all that when you spend your free time on vacation and playing golf.

Saban, Belichick, etc, might have some character issues that Spurrier never will, but I highly doubt this **** would be happening if either one of them were running this team...For one, Saban or Belichick would have nixed Deke Adams' defensive line philosophy a long time ago because it puts our inexperienced linebacking corps at risk. They control every aspect of their program.

Take Belichick. He is the de-facto defensive coordinator, but he is also heavily involved with New England's offense.

These guys work around the clock to make sure their football team is the best it can be.

Spurrier appears not to have made the same commitment.

Before yall start calling me out, let me be clear here:

I am not saying Spurrier is not a good coach. I think he is a great offensive coordinator. I am thankful for all the positive stuff he has accomplished at Carolina. With that said, his program management, commitment to making sure the football team is the best it can be, and head coaching abilities appear to be average at best.

I know Saban ain't walking through that door.

I know Belichick ain't walking through that door.

It's just so frustrating to watch the same garbage every year. The only way our win total goes up is when we get more talent and that talent gains experience. The coaching still looks to be the same now as it was in 2005...Average at best.
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