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Old 10-06-2013, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default I saw 4 mental mistakes that cost us bigtime.

Bruce surrounded on the fumbled punt return, no real opening, doesn't double cover the ball or get down. Cost - 7 points.

Kadetrix picks up a ball blown dead and spikes it. Cost - likely 7.

Hampton bites toward a screen fake and leaves his man wide open. Cost -7.

Hampton plays jamb at the line and when he releases. the player is wide open with Hampton trailing by 7-8 yards and the safety 10 deep. Cost - sustained drive. They get 7.

We have to play smart.
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Coaching. These mental mistakes are COACHABLE.
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Hampton bites toward a screen fake and leaves his man wide open. Cost -7.

Hampton plays jamb at the line and when he releases. the player is wide open with Hampton trailing by 7-8 yards and the safety 10 deep. Cost - sustained drive. They get 7.

We have to play smart.
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Bruce surrounded on the fumbled punt return, no real opening, doesn't double cover the ball or get down. Cost - 7 points.

Kadetrix picks up a ball blown dead and spikes it. Cost - likely 7.

Hampton bites toward a screen fake and leaves his man wide open. Cost -7.

Hampton plays jamb at the line and when he releases. the player is wide open with Hampton trailing by 7-8 yards and the safety 10 deep. Cost - sustained drive. They get 7.

We have to play smart.
in the zone coverage, I don't think it's Hampton's fault.....I think our safeties are slow to cover over the top.....correct on everything else.....you left out the fact that our DL bite on fakes on almost every play.
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Why are you guys criticizing our coaching staff? We clearly have the best coaching staff in college football.

Or at least that's what the sunshine pumpers want us to think.
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Id like to start a count of how many points Victor Hampton has cost us this season. I'm up to 21 at this point.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:06 AM   #9
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Id like to start a count of how many points Victor Hampton has cost us this season. I'm up to 21 at this point.
Yep... UNC, UCF and UK
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:19 AM   #10
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Kadetrix picks up a ball blown dead and spikes it. Cost - likely 7.

Hampton bites toward a screen fake and leaves his man wide open. Cost -7.
This happened on the same drive, so it's a collective 7 points.
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:22 AM   #11
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Id like to start a count of how many points Victor Hampton has cost us this season. I'm up to 21 at this point.
He's also been key in stopping a number of drives. He can fix the assignment stuff. I'm thinking some of it is simply trying to do too much. Don't break on a screen or swing until you see the ball in the air. If it could possibly be a lateral pass, don't break. When you're sure, close fast. Vic is a talented and good player. He just has to pick up his assignment football every play.
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in the zone coverage, I don't think it's Hampton's fault.....I think our safeties are slow to cover over the top.....correct on everything else.....you left out the fact that our DL bite on fakes on almost every play.
That one was on Hampton. He was trying to jump where he thought the ball was going to go rather than releasing the receiver and playing his assignment. When the defense came off the field he got two seperate lectures.
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:32 AM   #13
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Bruce surrounded on the fumbled punt return, no real opening, doesn't double cover the ball or get down. Cost - 7 points.

Kadetrix picks up a ball blown dead and spikes it. Cost - likely 7.

Hampton bites toward a screen fake and leaves his man wide open. Cost -7.

Hampton plays jamb at the line and when he releases. the player is wide open with Hampton trailing by 7-8 yards and the safety 10 deep. Cost - sustained drive. They get 7.

We have to play smart.

I agree to an extent.
The first, I call that an effort play and Bruce just trying to do too much. He isn't Ace, that isn't his game. Just catch it clean, get a few yards, and then get down (coache's will have to tell Bruce that).

The one on Kadetrix I'm not sure was his fault. Sitting on row 28 right in front of the play, I think Kadetrix accidently kicked the ball and was just frustrated with the call. Got to have more composure, but we liked DJ Swearinger for the same reason...still, goes back to coaching.

On Hampton's first, good game plan by Kentucky. Knew Vic would be aggressive and tried to get him to bite. STill, Vic has to be smarter and only go when he knows he has up top help (might was supposed to and the S got lost, don't know).

Also, not sure it is Hampton on the second either. If he releases, I expect him to know there is supposed to be help above, and maybe someone got lost again in coverage scheme.

Still, you are correct. These mistakes go back to coaching, and it felt like the D staff was all out of wack that second half.
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We need to have a team rule for kick returners, where if you catch it in the end zone, kneel! Every time. I've said it all year, not just for us, it is rare we make it to the 25 or past it (I'd like to see the numbers for a team and nationally). We don't even get to the 20 very often, usually we get to about the 15 so we're losing 10 yards most drives when we receive the kickoff.
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We need to have a team rule for kick returners, where if you catch it in the end zone, kneel! Every time. I've said it all year, not just for us, it is rare we make it to the 25 or past it (I'd like to see the numbers for a team and nationally). We don't even get to the 20 very often, usually we get to about the 15 so we're losing 10 yards most drives when we receive the kickoff.

Looks like they fixed that issue for punts inside the ten.
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No More Zone Coverage! Ever, Apparently We Can't Play It Without Screwing Up. Either It's Youth, Low Football IQ, Or Coaching. I Just Don'T Know.
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We need to have a team rule for kick returners, where if you catch it in the end zone, kneel! Every time. I've said it all year, not just for us, it is rare we make it to the 25 or past it (I'd like to see the numbers for a team and nationally). We don't even get to the 20 very often, usually we get to about the 15 so we're losing 10 yards most drives when we receive the kickoff.
Agreed 100%. If the ball is anywhere near the EZ, let it hit and don't bring it out. Our KR looks like a fire drill anyway and that fake end around pitch thing was a joke. They fixed it on punts it appears, now is time to make the same rule for kr.
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Coaching. These mental mistakes are COACHABLE.
They are coachable, but do you not think that our defensive coaches have told Vic to play his freaking assignment? They didn't forget how to coach. The problem is we have morons playing secondary who are to stupid to play man coverage and they play zone like they're lost.

I've been coaching for 5 years and I promise you can tell a player 15 times exactly what to do and how to do it and they will go in and screw it up the first time. The problem with our guys is that they are in college and this crap shouldn't happen and if they can't do what the hell they are supposed to then Whammy needs to sit somebody's ass down until they figure it out (Vic halt on most notably)
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They are coachable, but do you not think that our defensive coaches have told Vic to play his freaking assignment? They didn't forget how to coach. The problem is we have morons playing secondary who are to stupid to play man coverage and they play zone like they're lost.

I've been coaching for 5 years and I promise you can tell a player 15 times exactly what to do and how to do it and they will go in and screw it up the first time. The problem with our guys is that they are in college and this crap shouldn't happen and if they can't do what the hell they are supposed to then Whammy needs to sit somebody's ass down until they figure it out (Vic halt on most notably)
Yeah I kind of have to agree with this ^^^

They've been coached correctly, whether you think they're doing a good job or not I'm pretty damn sure the coaches know how to play football. Vic Hampton isn't coming inside expecting help over the top, he's trying to jump routes to make a big play. Every time he does this he's clearly moving into another defender's zone while leaving his man wide open.

I think VH is a talented player but I put those mental mistakes on him right now.
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I have not watched the game yet. Worked last night and did a three pronged Radio-gametracker-Cockytalk thing. I dont want to defend Vic if he was bad last night but he was great in the UCF game except for one play.
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