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Old 10-07-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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We got our culture change in football, we are 4-1 ranked 13th in the country and I can't find one happy or content GAMECOCK fan! I never thought that would mean we would have GAMECOCK fans bashing the best DE we have seen at the position based on media perception and assumptions or folks calling for the firing of coaches and telling the coach who got us back to back 11 win seasons with the youngest team in the country he can't coach. My favorite is the "fan" who explains how he will never win the way he coaches, the game has changed, he does not run enough, he does not throw enough, we take the foot off the gas.....I want this football team with the fans from the 80's!
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In all honesty, we're ranked 13th right now because of last season. If no preseason polls were released, we would NOT be ranked right now.

With that said, we are definitely expecting more from our guys now and that's a good problem to have.
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I think most of it is due to the majority of fans realizing that while SC is 4-1 and ranked, that odds are they will be 5-3, 4-4 after this road trip.
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Heck I think everyone in the forum would be happy if we keep winning by the skin of our teeth like we have been. The problem is the QUALITY of the teams is going to increase and that we're playing away from WB. Given those two factors...well, it just doesn't inspire a lot of hope for the future. Also its strange that what is normally the strength of our team (defense) is now our weakness, which is compounded by an All Everything Best-Player-Evah who has taken himself out of some of the games. No one knows what's going on but when he surprises the coaches there is an issue. If Clowney picks up where he left off Gamecock Country will be right as rain. The slide in defense seems to be happening across the SEC and we shouldn't be too surprised given who we lost last year but it seems like we didn't just lose players to the draft and graduation, we lost intangibles like leadership, teamwork and heart. Good news is that you just have to do it to get it back, the bad news is that time is short.
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So...how did we get to this culture change, Einstein? By expecting MORE and not settling for LESS!

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I think most of it is due to the majority of fans realizing that while SC is 4-1 and ranked, that odds are they will be 5-3, 4-4 after this road trip.
This coming from Greenville...

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I think most of it is due to the majority of fans realizing that while SC is 4-1 and ranked, that odds are they will be 5-3, 4-4 after this road trip.
I don't think we will win or lose 3n a row but... the UGA v Mizzou game will be telling. EVERY game will b close tho
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There is a Culture change here. Spurrier asked the fans not to apploud the team for a hard faught loss when he first got here, there are no moral victories. I dont think Spurrier wants us to settle for 14th in the country either. If you settle for it you will not expect more and you probably wont get more. We have one of the best coaches to ever coach the game, a great staff and a young team. Lets get the most out of this year and experience will be more important than anything. We'll be fine.
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We got our culture change in football, we are 4-1 ranked 13th in the country and I can't find one happy or content GAMECOCK fan! I never thought that would mean we would have GAMECOCK fans bashing the best DE we have seen at the position based on media perception and assumptions or folks calling for the firing of coaches and telling the coach who got us back to back 11 win seasons with the youngest team in the country he can't coach. My favorite is the "fan" who explains how he will never win the way he coaches, the game has changed, he does not run enough, he does not throw enough, we take the foot off the gas.....I want this football team with the fans from the 80's!

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There is a Culture change here. Spurrier asked the fans not to apploud the team for a hard faught loss when he first got here, there are no moral victories. I dont think Spurrier wants us to settle for 14th in the country either. If you settle for it you will not expect more and you probably wont get more. We have one of the best coaches to ever coach the game, a great staff and a young team. Lets get the most out of this year and experience will be more important than anything. We'll be fine.

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I think most of it is due to the majority of fans realizing that while SC is 4-1 and ranked, that odds are they will be 5-3, 4-4 after this road trip.
I don't think we will be at all...Those teams still have a lot to prove...have seen some people claim our issues are talent... no they aren't... it's what is between the ears. That can be fixed... and actually has gotten better in some ways... but not to the level we expect nor demand of our defense here. We could loose all 3, we could win all three.

I also have to say I'm not sure that I agree that we would not be ranked either... we have played a decent schedule, and have penty of talent, and still have won. Could I say we would be ranked where we are? no... but yes I think we'd certainly be ranked.
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If you are happy with mediocre results, that is what you will get.
Results of what a bunch of 18-22 yr olds do on the football field?

Happiness is a choice and some of us choose to not let the performance of a football team be a factor.
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Our program is in the spot right now where we have had very solid seasons recently and our fans are wanting that to continue and improve. Reality is, when programs are coming up they have stumbles along the way.

Our team doesn't have what it had the last few years in a lot of areas. We don't have the leadership, and the seniors haven't taken control of the defense.

Should we be blowing teams out and not giving away big leads in the 4th qtr? Absolutely but, look around the SEC this year. Georgia is having to outscore people, Bama isn't performing like Bama performs, Florida can't do anything on offense, A&M doesn't even know what defense is, MISSOU is 5-0 and we all know they don't play D.

SEC football is having a very unusual year. This year is this year. We have to stop comparing this team to last years or the year before. We are 4-1 (2-1). Am I happy with barely beating teams we should destroy? Heck no! Nobody is. It's stressful. But we are 4-1 (2-1). Our culture is changed. We expect to win and win big. But it doesn't always happen

All the coaching changes talk needs to stop until after the season. And if I was a recruit and I read a lot of the stuff people are saying about Clowney, I wouldn't go to school there.

This negativity has to stop. It's not going to change how the team performs.
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Our program is in the spot right now where we have had very solid seasons recently and our fans are wanting that to continue and improve. Reality is, when programs are coming up they have stumbles along the way.

Our team doesn't have what it had the last few years in a lot of areas. We don't have the leadership, and the seniors haven't taken control of the defense.

Should we be blowing teams out and not giving away big leads in the 4th qtr? Absolutely but, look around the SEC this year. Georgia is having to outscore people, Bama isn't performing like Bama performs, Florida can't do anything on offense, A&M doesn't even know what defense is, MISSOU is 5-0 and we all know they don't play D.

SEC football is having a very unusual year. This year is this year. We have to stop comparing this team to last years or the year before. We are 4-1 (2-1). Am I happy with barely beating teams we should destroy? Heck no! Nobody is. It's stressful. But we are 4-1 (2-1). Our culture is changed. We expect to win and win big. But it doesn't always happen

All the coaching changes talk needs to stop until after the season. And if I was a recruit and I read a lot of the stuff people are saying about Clowney, I wouldn't go to school there.

This negativity has to stop. It's not going to change how the team performs.
If the negativity isn't going to change how the team performs, then why does it have to stop?
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You can be happy in life while still being frustrated/disappointed in the performance of the football team.
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Criticism will come with that when you continue to demand excellence and improvement.
LOL yep, our culture change came from angry posters on CockyTalk. Hit the nail on the head.
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We bout to own this road trip. Connor and Mike will do what it takes. Whammy will find a way to keep the other guys 1 score behind.
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Wow Einstein, you could demand all you want but it takes the blood, sweat and tears of a team for excellence and improvement and none of your demands! Demanding excellence and improvement has nothing to do with telling a program that has been in the latest top 25 poll for more consecutive weeks then all college teams but 4 if memory serves me correct they do not know what they are doing as the obvious is for sure obvious to them! I will state an obvious for you, we are 4-1 with a good bit of work ahead of us but we have as good a chance at 12-1 as we do at 10-3/9-4 and that is something to cheer about. We have 2 goo QB's, a great RB with depth, a great group of WR/TE's stepping up and a defense that barring big play mistake/mental lapses is starting to come together and only 4 seniors on the entire team! Things are great in Gamecock country and the future is still bright as ever!
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