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Old 10-08-2013, 02:49 PM   #1
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I think we all have been disappointed in his play this year. seems like he can't win one on one battles. question is who should we put in his position and why?
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Old 10-08-2013, 02:58 PM   #2
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He'll come around.
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Default Re: Sutton?

I don't think he has been disappointing. He just hasn't lived up to what we thought he would be. He is pretty solid but not a huge playmaker. Personally when we look at the teams that throw a lot we will need him in there. The teams that run a lot like Arky we should play all the big guys. Have Dixon, Dixon jr, quarles, surrat all in the front. make them run through a wall to run the ball. C2 alluded to the boundary guys that will have to play. They will pitch left, pitch right and run up the middle.
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It appears that Sutton's role last year ended up being his maxed out potential: pass-rush specialist. He just doesn't appear to have anything more to his game than that. In run plays he's continuously gotten abused and does not hold contain.
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Missing Devin Taylor. We've had some good defensive players come through Columbia the past few years.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:57 PM   #6
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I said this all along in the offseason, but everyone criticized me... I kept saying he will underwhelm vs the run, and that he would be a monster as a 3rd down pass rush guy. If English was bigger he would 100% be starting.

Next year I'm looking forward to our Dline.. with English and Jhaustin Thomas as our bookends, Dukes/Griffin as our interior. Youth and athleticism abound

And if Lamin does end up staying, he probably will start over Dukes.. The DL could actually be better than this year haha
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I said this all along in the offseason, but everyone criticized me... I kept saying he will underwhelm vs the run, and that he would be a monster as a 3rd down pass rush guy. If English was bigger he would 100% be starting.

Next year I'm looking forward to our Dline.. with English and Jhaustin Thomas as our bookends, Dukes/Griffin as our interior. Youth and athleticism abound

And if Lamin does end up staying, he probably will start over Dukes.. The DL could actually be better than this year haha
From what all the reports indicate, Darius English's body will not allow him to put on much more weight. I think he looks rail-thin, and I can't imagine someone that skinny being a full-time defensive end.

Next year I expect Dixon to be starting at DE instead of English.
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Default Re: Sutton?

People don't seem to get how much we miss Byron and Devin on that side.

Watch the games, the majority of the runs go to that left side of the defense against Surratt/Sutton.

After last year I thought Sutton was primed to have a big year. I've seen it reported that he's also had foot problems, so that might explain some of it.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Sutton?

He's actually a good tackler and very quick, but I think he gets pushed back on the sweeps instead of playing upfield. Although he might be too tall, be could possibly help with some of our MLB problems. At 250, and 6'5, he might cover slants and short passes better than the others, and he should have a good burst to the hole from the second level. Couldn't do a lot worse than the last few games, and wouldn't have to play every down.
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I think we all have been disappointed in his play this year. seems like he can't win one on one battles. question is who should we put in his position and why?
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:46 PM   #11
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I think English would be better on the other side of clowney. move Sutton to line backer
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:13 PM   #12
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I said this all along in the offseason, but everyone criticized me... I kept saying he will underwhelm vs the run, and that he would be a monster as a 3rd down pass rush guy. If English was bigger he would 100% be starting.

Next year I'm looking forward to our Dline.. with English and Jhaustin Thomas as our bookends, Dukes/Griffin as our interior. Youth and athleticism abound

And if Lamin does end up staying, he probably will start over Dukes.. The DL could actually be better than this year haha
Dukes hasn't done ANYTHING that would make me think he would start next year. My guess would be:

DE: English - Thomas

DT: Dixon JR - Griffin

DT: Surratt - Lamin

DE: Dixon - Washington
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:48 PM   #13
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I'd like to see Quarkes take Sutton's spot.
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He played some of the easier OT's he's going to face this year. UCF's and UGA's were good, but Kent's, UNC's and Vandy's were anything special. He'll need to step up his game if he wasn't to get drafted.
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We have played 5 games and in 5 games teams have beaten us on the side Sutton is on why are the coaches not coaching him up or switching him out? He needs to step it up or coaches need to put someone in there who can do the job.
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We have played 5 games and in 5 games teams have beaten us on the side Sutton is on why are the coaches not coaching him up or switching him out? He needs to step it up or coaches need to put someone in there who can do the job.
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this.....with Clowney getting doubled, he should have done much more than he has. I've watched him a bunch of times and he bites on every first fake and is therefore almost always out of position....
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:55 AM   #19
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Whole thread with no mention to his injury? Slow healing foot sprain.. It's still early in the season.
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Stop the run this week and we win big, setting the tone for the rest of the season.

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