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Old 10-14-2013, 04:19 PM   #1
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11-1 and SEC-E champions, but lose in the championship game?

If these were the only possible outcomes, would you rather be division champ and go to a lesser bowl with a loss in the championship game, or maximize our chances of getting into a BCS bowl by finishing second in the East to UF/UGA/Mizzou but having a single loss?
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:34 PM   #2
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I think I would rather have a chance to win the championship than to not have one
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I want to see Connor Shaw in the Georgia Dome, going against Alabama.

It would be awful for my marriage (wife is a RollTider), but I think Shaw, playing at his current level, could do some serious damage against the Pachyderms.
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Default Re: Better position? 11-1 and second in the East or

I think 11-1 and a loss in the SECCG would still get a BCS bowl game, so I think I will go with the SECCG.
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Not much of a chance we go to a BCS bowl finishing 2nd in East with A&M and LSU on the other side. I don't think most of our fans, including me, even care about winning the SEC as much as they do getting there and having a shot at it.

I went to Atlanta for the SECCG festivities in 2010 and absolutely loved it despite the outcome.
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SEC Championship game is bigger and better than any bowl, even a BCS bowlgame.
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I think 11-1 and a loss in the SECCG would still get a BCS bowl game, so I think I will go with the SECCG.
Assuming that no other SEC team was 11-1 before the SECCG (not counting Alabama), this.
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Getting to Atlanta, even if you had some crystal ball that would tell you that SC was going to lose.

When a coach like Spurrier comes to a place like SC, it is all about taking steps in the right direction. We have only been to Atlanta once. Going again, even if it is a loss, would taking steps in the right direction.
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I think I would rather have a chance to win the championship than to not have one
As would I, but assuming we went and lost, does that change your opinion?

Which means more, a division championship or a BCS bid? I would probably lean to the latter because we've never made it to a BCS game, but it would be great to reward Shaw, Clowney and some of the other upperclassmen with the SEC-CG experience even if we were to lose.

Hopefully we win out, win the East and SEC-CG, and all of this will stay hypothetical.
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I think 11-1 and a loss in the SECCG would still get a BCS bowl game, so I think I will go with the SECCG.
I care more about winning the east than going to a BCS bowl. At least we can have bragging rights in our division.
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We need another SEC East title. Even if we can't win the championship outright as your scenario states, it will help improve our reputation as a program if we can start consistently playing for the title.

And honestly, if we run the table and make the championship game, we'd still have a very good chance at a BCS at-large bid as long as we don't get run out of the stadium like we did last time.
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Old 10-14-2013, 04:53 PM   #12
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11-1 and SEC-E champions, but lose in the championship game?

If these were the only possible outcomes, would you rather be division champ and go to a lesser bowl with a loss in the championship game, or maximize our chances of getting into a BCS bowl by finishing second in the East to UF/UGA/Mizzou but having a single loss?
Gotta go with 11-1 2nd in the East since under that scenario we can still record our fewest losses ever. Now if you said 11-1 1st in the East with a chance to win the SEC or 11-1 Second in the East with a chance to go to BCS bowl depending on how the West shakes out that would be a little different.
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13-1....Simple as that!
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SEC Championship game is bigger and better than any bowl, even a BCS bowlgame.

Totally agree with this. I've been to the Sugar and the Orange Bowl on a few occassions and nothing matches the atmosphere at the SECCG. Nothing. The wildest sports experience of my life.
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do a search and I bet you find this thread the last 2 years...now going on 3
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Always fascinating to me that this is even a point of discussion.

You want to win the East and play for the Championship. UGA (almost) showed last year that anything is possible. We ran into a buzz saw that was one of the single greatest player performances in the history of college football last time we were there. But the goal is and should always be win the east, possibly win the SEC. In order to establish the program in the upper tier it takes Division and Conference titles. Can't get the latter w/o the former.

The "well, we'd probably lose badly to Bama/LSU/whoever" is a loser's mentality. By virtue of winning the division and playing for the SECCG you possibly get to play for a National Championship or BCS Bowl, anyway. And if for whatever reason it works out that you don't, at least our team had the shot.
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do a search and I bet you find this thread the last 2 years...now going on 3
Perhaps that's the case (really couldn't tell you), but this year may be more likely to play out according to that "script."

Two years ago made it to the midpoint of the season but knew that we were going to be a road underdog to Arkansas, and last year we had lost multiple games by mid-season.

This season, we'll very possibly be favorites each week if we keep winning unless we make it to the championship game, in which case we'd likely be an underdog to any of the teams who would come out of the West. So maybe the question isn't original, but it might be more germane this year than in years past.
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If we can win out and get to Atlanta, I like our chances versus whichever team makes it from the west. Right now, our most realistic chance at a BCS bowl is winning the SEC!
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You want to win the East and play for the Championship.

The "well, we'd probably lose badly to Bama/LSU/whoever" is a loser's mentality. By virtue of winning the division and playing for the SECCG you possibly get to play for a National Championship or BCS Bowl, anyway. And if for whatever reason it works out that you don't, at least our team had the shot.
Just to clarify... I agree wholeheartedly with you. I would MUCH rather have a shot at winning a championship than to not play for it at all.

What I am asking is, if you had the benefit of foresight and KNEW you wouldn't win the championship, would you rather be SEC-E champs and playing in the Outback Bowl or SEC-E runners-up and playing in the Sugar Bowl?

Without the benefit of foresight, I would choose the chance at a championship a hundred times out of a hundred. However, if I knew we would lose the SEC-CG, the choice becomes more difficult because I am pitting program firsts (BCS Bowl and most wins/best win percentage in a season) against something that we have already done before.
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Hard call. I would be just as happy in either the SEC title game or the BCS bowl game.

The SEC matchup gives us hardware even with a loss though.
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