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Old 10-20-2013, 09:32 AM   #1
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:53 AM   #2
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Throw in Wilson's targetting call on 4th down that gave Vandy TD and we got ****ed pretty hard by this shitty rule.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:55 AM   #3
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Everything is wrong with the stupid rule.

If nothing else it should be treated like a tech foul in basketball, get two (or more) and you're ejected but to be ejected after one bang/bang hit is ridiculous. Plus IMO there is too much judgement involved. This leads to guys going low and all the leg injuries. It's a violent game and guys need to be taught how to actually tackle instead of trying to blow guys up but at the same time they are trying to knock the ball loose.

After the Brady injury you couldn't go low on QB and you can't go high so basically you aren't allowed to touch Tom Brady and this is allegedly tackle football.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:57 AM   #4
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Thats a crappy rule. The play needs to be reviewed and if its determined that it was an intentional launching then it should stand, but un-intentional hits are part of the game and if its ruled legal the penalty should not stand either. And there should be a determination whether the receiver lowered his head as well.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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agree with the tech rule never thought about it that way. do it once ok do it twice and your gone. also if the game is already stopped to review the penalty should not stand either
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:03 AM   #6
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We are moving closer and closer to flag football. In the next couple years below the thighs will be added to the rule to protect players knees.
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The Clemson player that got ejected last night...yes, that was targeting. It was easy to see going full speed. When you watch a play full speed and question whether it's targeting or not, a flag shouldn't be thrown.

Since this damn rule came out it's like the refs are becoming flag happy and focusing on that penalty alone and not looking for the other penalties like holding.
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i will never understand why if the play gets overturned, they still assess the 15 yard penalty????
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:01 AM   #9
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i will never understand why if the play gets overturned, they still assess the 15 yard penalty????
Hopefully this off season this will be changed.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:42 PM   #10
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i will never understand why if the play gets overturned, they still assess the 15 yard penalty????
Because that would make too much sense.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:48 PM   #11
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It's stupid...
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:52 PM   #12
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Default Re: What is Wrong With Targetting Rule

It's still in place after reversal because it is considered unnecessary roughness.

It should be changed to Unnecessary roughness and suspensions should be handled by the conference office for the next game. All unneccessary roughness should be reviewed by the conference and suspensions handed out on Mondays if warrented.

Take it our of the hands of the refs. It slows the game having to review it.
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We might as well play touch football. This is ruining college football. It should not be targeting if helmets just happen to touch. It should not be targeting it you do not lead with the head. I also think it is stupid to be able to reverse the targeting, but not the penalty.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:20 PM   #14
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I think the rule and the point behind it is good....the enforcement of it the
way it's set up now is about the most ridiculous CRAP I've seen in
college football. I for the life of me can't understand the "15 yard
penalty sticking" if they decide the hit wasn't targeting ?!?!?! ... The rule
was set up that any play that is called targeting gets reviewed..OK. The
rule is that any close play gets called...OK, and the "command" from the
head of officials is "When In Doubt, Throw Em Out" .. OK
But if you are going to take the time to review every close call you
flag, what is the F***ing point in still assessing the penalty if the review
determines that the hit was not targeting, and was a clean hit ????

I heard Todd Ellis explain it on one of his noon shows, that his understanding
was that it was a way to make the officials not hesitate in throwing
a flag. ..He said when they first voted on the rule, several officials said
that they would not throw it, because they didn't want to be "That Guy"
who ejected a player and find out later it was a good hit...The head
of officials said Throw it when in any doubt, and review the play. He said
it was a way to force players to stay away from the head area when
going for a stop... I can agree with that, but if you find out the hit was
clean, then for god's sake, pick up the flag and move the ball back to the
last spot. It's ridiculous to allow officials to penalize a team for a hard
hit if it's clean just because they weren't sure and will have to review it.

STUPID RULE !!
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That is is some how illegal

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:35 PM   #16
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Default This is why you can't 'pick up' the flag.....

Here's my take on the 'letting the penalty stand' part, and its pretty simple.

If you allow replay to decide that a penalty (flag) isn't warranted/should be picked up, then you start down the slippery slope of reviewing other, and then possibly ALL penalties. My opinion.

I hate the rule as it is as much as anyone. It's a dumb rule, left to judgement, and it's been horribly, horribly utilized/enforced/implemented.






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Should work like cards in Soccer. Two yellow cards = one red card = ejection and suspension from the next game. If the penalty is egregious enough the first time, the player gets the red card. Still subjective, but maybe a little more balanced in the effect it has on the game. Maybe you also look at a cumulative 'yellow card' count for players too, so that if they hit a threshold during the season they have to sit for a game.

There must be changes to the current rule. It is crap.
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Should work like cards in Soccer. Two yellow cards = one red card = ejection and suspension from the next game. If the penalty is egregious enough the first time, the player gets the red card. Still subjective, but maybe a little more balanced in the effect it has on the game. Maybe you also look at a cumulative 'yellow card' count for players too, so that if they hit a threshold during the season they have to sit for a game.

There must be changes to the current rule. It is crap.
15 yard penalty. No ejection, no suspension. That's how it should be.
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The real problem is there is no distinction anymore between targeting and a helmet to helmet hit. There are plenty of inadvertent hits that should warrant a flag but not ejection. Targeting is an intentional shot. Now any helmet to helmet is considered targeting.
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The real problem is there is no distinction anymore between targeting and a helmet to helmet hit. There are plenty of inadvertent hits that should warrant a flag but not ejection. Targeting is an intentional shot. Now any helmet to helmet is considered targeting.
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