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Old 10-25-2013, 12:20 PM   #1
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Default Marines Upset That Their New "Unisex" Hats Are Girly

Thought this was a joke, but it's not. Anyone a Marine?


Current hats on the left, proposed new hats on the right

NY Post – A change to the Marine Corps’ uniform hats could take the hard-nosed Leathernecks from the Halls of Montezuma to the shops of Christopher Street. Thanks to a plan by President Obama to create a “unisex” look for the Corps, officials are on the verge of swapping out the Marines’ iconic caps – known as “covers” — with a new version that some have derided as so “girly” that they would make the French blush.

Male and female Marines currently wear gender-specific caps. The controversial covers have been dubbed the “Dan Daly” hat, after a World War I sergeant from Long Island who twice won the Medal of Honor. But some Marines love the old hat, which has been in use since 1922 and think the new hat is a glorified “porter’s cap.” The new Daly model is based on a style the Marines used from 1904 to 1918 – and then jettisoned.

“The Dan Daly cap looks too French, and the last people we want to associate our Marines with would be the French military,” wrote one commenter on the Marine Times Web site. As of now, the new covers are only in the proposal stage. Marines have until Friday to cast their votes on whether to adopt them or keep the old hat with modifications. Marine Corps head Gen. James Amos will make the final decision.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:09 PM   #3
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The French Foreign Legion look
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I kid.. I kid.. I do share the sentiment of them not exactly having a very masculine look when compared to the traditional one
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #5
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Default Re: Marines Upset That Their New "Unisex" Hats Are Girly

This may even be worse than when they stole the black berets from the Rangers so everyone in the Army could feel special. Just glad they left my maroon beret alone. Who the hell dreams this crap up? Oh and it's going to cost us tax payers 8 million to make the change, but I guess that's chump change when it comes to Government waste nowadays.
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Well we do have gays in the military, so maybe need a new look.
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What sucks is that they are spending $8 Million on changing hats, but cutting the budget for things Marines actually NEED on a daily basis to be Marines. If they have $8 Mil to spend, why not spend it on something that matters, like ammunition.
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What sucks is that they are spending $8 Million on changing hats, but cutting the budget for things Marines actually NEED on a daily basis to be Marines. If they have $8 Mil to spend, why not spend it on something that matters, like ammunition.
Good point.

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I have friends who are Marines, and I have to admit...I stole my point from hearing them make the same point. And FWIW...they do NOT like the new covers.

Seriously...what's wrong with the old ones????? Marines have the most kick-ass dress uniform (next to Navy whites - Daddy wore those :), and this new cover will make it look silly IMO.
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What sucks is that they are spending $8 Million on changing hats, but cutting the budget for things Marines actually NEED on a daily basis to be Marines. If they have $8 Mil to spend, why not spend it on something that matters, like ammunition.
This is exactly why our military men and women can't get the equipment they need to perform their jobs. Sorry, we spent the money for your body armor on these fancy new unisex hats.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:24 PM   #11
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Simmer down folks.

We are getting new female "covers" solely because the past manufacturer is out of business. Men's Dress Barracks Covers (official name) are not changing.

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Old 10-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #12
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Gaichon I hope you are right, granted i dont have to wear it anymore. I have friends who are still in and they have expressed their opinions on this, and it isnt pretty.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:49 PM   #13
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Yeah, I wouldn't want anything that would make me look like I was French either.
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Old 10-25-2013, 04:53 PM   #14
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They were never going to change it. It was just one of those stupid things that the uniform board does and they put out some pictures just to show how it would look. I don't know how Obama got wrapped up into this either.
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FORT GEORGE G. MEADE, Md. -- Recent headlines in the media have created confusion regarding a Marine Corps uniform item, the male dress cover. Some in the media have implied that the President of the United States directed a change in this dress cover.

Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. James F. Amos said, “the President in no way, shape or form directed the Marine Corps to change our uniform cover.”

While the Marine Corps Uniform Board is currently looking for a new cover, or cap, for female Marines because the current manufacturer is going out of business, there is no intent to change the current male Marine dress cover.
A survey released by the Marine Corps Uniform Board eliciting input from Marines in regard to uniform items, sought opinions about the “Dan Daly-style” cover.

Pictures of male Marines wearing this cover were included in the survey material. This is standard practice while conducting surveys. For instance, when the Marine Corps transitioned to the current MARPAT camouflage design several years ago, surveys included a number of proposed cami-patterns and additional uniform options.

“The surveys often contain photo illustrations that portray what a uniform article might look like when worn by a Marine,” Col. Todd S. Desgrosseilliers, Marine Corps Uniform Board president, said. “This is a very standard practice. While there was never any desire or intent to change the male Marine dress cover, the feedback we have received to maintain this iconic cover has been heard, loud and clear. "

Surveys conducted by the Uniform Board serve to inform the commandant, who has the final say on all changes to the Marine Corps uniform.
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Gaichon I hope you are right, granted i dont have to wear it anymore. I have friends who are still in and they have expressed their opinions on this, and it isnt pretty.

You can see from the other recent posts, what I put up was accurate - just another case of the media completely and utterly twisting a non-story to get a rise. It worked.
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This is the marine equivalent of our typical off-season uniform / helmet thread. A lot of debate and misinformation over a non-story.
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This is the marine equivalent of our typical off-season uniform / helmet thread. A lot of debate and misinformation over a non-story.


Not quite. No one created a photoshop version of how the marines should redesign their unis, and we haven't spent 50 pages discussing if the cover really matches the rest of the uniform.
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So yeah, I love the cover I have right now. Glad it isn't changing.
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I got out last month, I never heard anything about it and haven't heard anything from my buddies still in. But it does look stupid and I hope they keep the barracks cover. Its so damn sharpe
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