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Old 10-29-2013, 04:58 PM   #1
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Curious of opinions on Cockytalk about FSU. Personally, I think they are a good football team, but I'm not as impressed as a lot of people. In their "big" (assuming anything big can exist in the current ACC) win vs. Clemson I noticed a weak offensive line and while I do believe Winston is a good quarterback, I don't believe all of his hype. Here is a video of them vs Clemson. Watch it and let me know what you think. Outside of this game their schedule has been a cake walk so far. So far I believe that this is the only game that you can look at to see their potential due to their weak scheduling:



My prediction (this may be far fetched and I won't be surprised if I am wrong, so let's call it a weak prediction) is that FSU will lose to Florida at Florida. Crazy? Maybe, but I will always choose SEC defense and the Gators are 4th nationally on defense. Yes their offense sucks right now, but add in the home crowd and rivalry week and a good defense and you have a chance.

Anyway,I'm interested in your opinion on the Seminoles and on my pick b/w UF and FSU. On another note, I much prefer Tommy Suggs and Todd Ellis to Gene Deckerhoff (the radio commentator in the video).
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My prediction (this may be far fetched and I won't be surprised if I am wrong, so let's call it a weak prediction) is that FSU will lose to Florida at Florida. Crazy? Maybe, but I will always choose SEC defense and the Gators are 4th nationally on defense. Yes their offense sucks right now, but add in the home crowd and rivalry week and a good defense and you have a chance.

Anyway,I'm interested in your opinion on the Seminoles and on my pick b/w UF and FSU.
The thing is, FSU's offense is better than Missouri's, and Missouri shredded Florida for 36 points and over 500 yards.
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ESPN was discussing how it seems like they are in a lose-lose situation at this point since they are beating everyone so handily. By beating all their ACC foes so heavily it's diminishing the overall strength of their conference. Clemson is easily the 2nd best team in the ACC and look at what they did to them. It sounded so backwards to me but I guess it makes sense. What do they want them to do? Win close and they say you're not a very good team, win big and they say your opponents are too weak. Crazy.
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The thing is, FSU's offense is better than Missouri's, and Missouri shredded Florida for 36 points and over 500 yards.
I'm just not sold on FSU's offense. If they had a win over anyone other than Clemson I might agree, but their next best opponent that they have played this year is Maryland... Not saying you're wrong, I just don't see a defense that they have played that actually gets pressure on the QB more than a few times the whole game
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:25 PM   #5
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ESPN was discussing how it seems like they are in a lose-lose situation at this point since they are beating everyone so handily. By beating all their ACC foes so heavily it's diminishing the overall strength of their conference. Clemson is easily the 2nd best team in the ACC and look at what they did to them. It sounded so backwards to me but I guess it makes sense. What do they want them to do? Win close and they say you're not a very good team, win big and they say your opponents are too weak. Crazy.
The flip side of that is if FSU has a close game now against an ACC opponent with the weaknesses of the ACC exposed again, people will doubt FSU because they didn't win by a large margin.
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I think they're the best and most complete team right now. Free Shoes U has been one of the biggest underachieving teams in the last decade considering all of the talent.
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They have looked very strong so far but they haven't exactly played anyone other than Clemsux. I am willing to bet that the U doesn't win this one in the last few minutes this week! FSU should beat them down! Miami is the most overrated team at this point.
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Their DBs and their WRs are very good. Winston is awesome and didn't get rattled.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:19 PM   #9
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I honestly believe they are the second best team to Bama. Yes they haven't beaten anyone outside of Clemson, but they destroyed a good Clemson team in DV in the prime time game of the week. Oregon is probably more deserving just by strength of schedule, but I just feel FSUs Defense is the key factor.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:52 PM   #10
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Their DBs and their WRs are very good. Winston is awesome and didn't get rattled.
This^^^^^.

Solid DB's, big athletic WR's, and a solid defense as a whole. Winston looks like he's going to be the real deal.

Clemson had a good run for a few years after Bobby dragged the program into the dumper. Jimbo is steadily getting better players there, like it or not the Noles are becoming relevant again.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:42 PM   #11
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I don't know if they're a top 3 team or not. Kind of hard to judge them given their competition so far. I do think Winston is the real deal though. I've watched parts of 3 or 4 games and he's made some throws that without pinpoint accuracy would be picked off/broken up. Throws that redshirt freshmen don't normally make. That plus the poise and consistency he's shown makes me think he's going to have a long and successful NFL career, barring major injuries.
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My opinion is, if they played Clemson 10 times, they'd only win 5 of them.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:51 PM   #13
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I think they're a very good team and could easily compete in the SEC (although it might be wrong to bring this in the discussion). They have great skill position players, solid secondary and their LBs and D line are very good. Winston is a stud and their o line is pretty good. They seem to be a pretty complete team now and I think they will whoop Miami and Florida. We might see them in the national championship this year.
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Most of my opinion comes from the Clemson game as its the only full FSU game I've watched:

They have an absurd amount of talent at the skill positions.
Lamarcus Joyner and the entire secondary are really good.
Jameis Winston is a great leader especially since he's only a RS Freshman. He's also one of the top 5 QB's in CFB.
It feels like its been a while since FSU has had one true dominant rusher. It seems like they mostly do a run game by committee. To challenge a team as good as Bama, I think they need a better run game.
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Best in the ACC....................Outside of that, it's all speculation !
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I respectfully disagree. I don't think you'd win more than 1.
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FSU is a legit top 5 team.

They are the real deal in a crappy conference.
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