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Old 11-18-2013, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default What's happened to the running game?

I haven't seen this question discussed very much. But here's the trend:

* In the last 3 games we have had our 3 lowest rushing totals of the season.

* In the last 3 games we have not rushed for a touchdown.

Now, there's been plenty of discussion about Connor Shaw's performance, but, in those 3 games, he's thrown for 8 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions. I think the decline in the running game is the more pressing issue.

The good new is we've won the last 3 games, and I don't think the lack of a running game will be a problem against Coastal or Clemson. It does concern me if we, hopefully, play Bama.

So what gives? Is Davis banged up? Shaw as well? No Wilds? Has the D line regressed? Has the competition been better over the last 3 games? Are we becoming overly finesse on offense?

Any thoughts are welcomed.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:49 AM   #2
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teams are forcing us to beat them passing...
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

Since Connor doesn't run much anymore, teams don't honor him as a possible runner in the zone read, and therefore key on Davis. They are also just focused on stopping the run and forcing Connor to beat them passing. CS hasn't had a good compete game passing since Arky.
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I haven't seen this question discussed very much. But here's the trend:

* In the last 3 games we have had our 3 lowest rushing totals of the season.

* In the last 3 games we have not rushed for a touchdown.

Now, there's been plenty of discussion about Connor Shaw's performance, but, in those 3 games, he's thrown for 8 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions. I think the decline in the running game is the more pressing issue.

The good new is we've won the last 3 games, and I don't think the lack of a running game will be a problem against Coastal or Clemson. It does concern me if we, hopefully, play Bama.

So what gives? Is Davis banged up? Shaw as well? No Wilds? Has the D line regressed? Has the competition been better over the last 3 games? Are we becoming overly finesse on offense?

Any thoughts are welcomed.


We played the 3 best Ds we will face all year. Nothing more complicated than that. Our OL isn't as good as we think but still much better than before.

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Old 11-18-2013, 12:54 AM   #5
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We played the 3best Ds we will face all year. Nothing more complicated than that. Our OL isn't as good as we think but still much better than before.
I agree on Fla and Miss St, but Tenn doesn't have a good defense.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:55 AM   #6
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

Did Wilds even get in the game? Is he still hurt? Are we saving him for Clemson?
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:00 AM   #7
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

The line hasn't improved all year. Davis has some nagging injuries and we still don't have our no.2 Wilds. I think all those factors contribute.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:03 AM   #8
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Since Connor doesn't run much anymore, teams don't honor him as a possible runner in the zone read, and therefore key on Davis. They are also just focused on stopping the run and forcing Connor to beat them passing. CS hasn't had a good compete game passing since Arky.
I think you have lost your mind to say Shaw did not play a complete game against mizz, he played a complete game in one half... 20-29 201yds 3 TD's....
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I agree on Fla and Miss St, but Tenn doesn't have a good defense.
The last 3 were Mizzou, Miss State and UF. I think Mizzou has a good D.
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

The Florida game was the first time I saw Carson make a cut. Until then he took the handoff and ran into the 1st defender he could find and went down. It's only because we had no other backup RB that he got three games to wake up and open his eyes.

As far as Davis; how can you say the running game has dropped off if he is number 1 in rushing in the SEC?

I was very impressed at Mizzou's D line and Floridas.

Many of the SEC defenses this year are tough to run on. The best D lines in college football are in the SEC.
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #11
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

The running game is fine, to me... what I am more concerned about is the passing game... that is probably the worst I have seen Connor play ever. But just like everyone is entitled to a good game, same with a bad one... Coastal will be no walk over, but I do hope that our boys work on the fundamentals this week for sure.
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

We give up on the i formation way too easily. Patience and versatility amongst obviously execution is key to running the ball. That said i wouldn't panic yet.
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Default Re: What's happened to the running game?

Part of the reason for that is Mizzou and UF have 2 of the best defenses in the country. Mizzou's DL is just unreal. UF doesn't just have talent on the DL they have such a good secondary that they can put their CBs on an island confidently and cheat up against the running game. Level of competition is playing arguably the biggest factor.
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8 I agree that's the worst i remember Connor playing . I think he's running slower , but last night he had no feel throwing it seemed. Florida has a fast defense! :wink?
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I think you have lost your mind to say Shaw did not play a complete game against mizz, he played a complete game in one half... 20-29 201yds 3 TD's....
Yes he was great in the Missouri game.....but he only played half the game....that was my point.....why do you think I used the word complete, as in entire game.
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The last 3 were Mizzou, Miss State and UF. I think Mizzou has a good D.
your right, I was thinking Tenn came after Missouri.
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Yes he was great in the Missouri game.....but he only played half the game....that was my point.....why do you think I used the word complete, as in entire game.
If that is the case then you are mistaken, he played the entire game against flawda and miss st.
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If that is the case then you are mistaken, he played the entire game against flawda and miss st.
Look at the last sentence in my post #3 above. My statement was CS hasn't had a good complete game since Arky. He did not have a good game against Tenn, Miss St or Florida.....and he didn't play but half the game against Missouri.
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Look at the last sentence in my post #3 above. My statement was CS hasn't had a good complete game since Arky. He did not have a good game against Tenn, Miss St or Florida.....and he didn't play but half the game against Missouri.
Ok, but to say 10-20 for 147yds and 4 TD's is not a good game would also lead me to believe you have lost your mind, not a complete game but anytime you throw 4 TD's in a game it is at the very least a good game.
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Part of the reason for that is Mizzou and UF have 2 of the best defenses in the country. Mizzou's DL is just unreal. UF doesn't just have talent on the DL they have such a good secondary that they can put their CBs on an island confidently and cheat up against the running game. Level of competition is playing arguably the biggest factor.
And we ran well v. Mizzou...just fumbled and penalitied ourselves out of pts.

The Miss St game is an anamoly....they gave us 5 takeaways...stats get skewed when one team is getting quick and easy scores. We only ran 54 plays in that game.

Last Sat was Connor's worst passing game I can remember....still SMH. I'm sure he's enjoying the win, but I bet he wishes he had that one to do over again.
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