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Old 12-09-2013, 02:57 PM   #1
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allow more than two Teams from any one Conference. If the SEC stands for that they are foolish. This is why the formed a committee so they can keep more than two SEC Teams from getting in. This is no more than Political garbage if true but if you think about it that's all the committee can be created for. I mean it's obvious that 1 should play 4 and 2 plays 3 but evidently that is at the discretion of this " new " committee.
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This committee is going to be a nightmare. It will never remotely be fair until they make it at least a eight team play-off, should be sixteen realistically.

We have to turn the corner and win the SECCG. We do that and we'll be in the drivers seat.
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Bowls still have their tie ins.

Nothing really is going to change.
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Although it was an act of congress just to get a playoff system in place, they need to go ahead and move it to an 8 team playoff system. I haven't heard one advocate of the 4 team system. The coaches already don't like it and everyone sees the obvious issues. That's bad bc it's not even here yet, however we'll be talking about this for a long time especially this time next year.
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Bowls still have their tie ins.

Nothing really is going to change.
Two more teams are going to get a chance to win it all.

It's a step in the right direction.
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Two more teams are going to get a chance to win it all.

It's a step in the right direction.
Oh yea I know that. I was just talking about the bowl selection procedure.
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If they don't take the 4 top power rated Teams for the 4 team playoff is just another sham imo.
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Eventually this will go to an 8 team playoff. I would bet the farm on it.
I do think they'll try it with 6 after a few years of the current (expected)
format, with two teams getting first round byes. A four team playoff is
better than the crap they have now, but it still omits some very deserving
teams from getting a chance at a title that should at least be allowed
to compete for it. IMO, 16 is too many. At Max, maybe 12 teams with
four first round byes to the top seeds. It'll expand though. As soon as they
see the amount of money they can get off of this system, they'll expand it.
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This committee is going to be a nightmare. It will never remotely be fair until they make it at least a eight team play-off, should be sixteen realistically.

We have to turn the corner and win the SECCG. We do that and we'll be in the drivers seat.

NO, the playoff does NOT need to be 16 teams. If you lose 2-3 games and don't win your conference, you have no business playing for the National Title. It needs to be 8 teams, and it's open to the best 8 teams in the nation no matter what conference they're in.

We have 2 losses and 1 was to a team that we had no business even letting it be close against. Everyone can kick and scream all they want, but we blew our own chances.

Take the garnet colored glasses off ... if Clemson lost 2 games, one was to a team that won't even go to a bowl, would you want them having a chance to be National Champs? I doubt it.
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NO, the playoff does NOT need to be 16 teams. If you lose 2-3 games and don't win your conference, you have no business playing for the National Title. It needs to be 8 teams, and it's open to the best 8 teams in the nation no matter what conference they're in.

We have 2 losses and 1 was to a team that we had no business even letting it be close against. Everyone can kick and scream all they want, but we blew our own chances.

Take the garnet colored glasses off ... if Clemson lost 2 games, one was to a team that won't even go to a bowl, would you want them having a chance to be National Champs? I doubt it.
It has absolutely nothing to do with garnet colored glasses, but I thank you for the compliment.

Why should it be any different from the FCS play-offs. I don't hear them complaining about it. As a matter of fact, it's what makes them relevant in the college football world.
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This committee is going to be no friend of the SEC. They've already discussed the fact that the committee is likely to give an inordinate amount of weight to conference champions. I'm sorry but an ACC Championship and an SEC Championship are not equal. An 11-1 ACC Champion should not be given the nod over an 11-1 SEC team that did not win its conference championship.

I guarantee this committee will be a politically correct, spread-the-wealth, level-the-playing field nightmare. The politically correct nature of assembling the committee was a telling sign in my opinion. I'm sorry but what is Condaleeza Rice's qualification for being on this committee? The fact that she is a self-titled "football fan?" The nation is full of football fans. I am a big Condaleeza Rice fan and would love for her to be on any committee that has to do with running this country, but in my opinion she and a few others on this committee are on there solely for the public relations factor.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with garnet colored glasses, but I thank you for the compliment.

Why should it be any different from the FCS play-offs. I don't hear them complaining about it. As a matter of fact, it's what makes them relevant in the college football world.

None of that was really direct at you. You were just the first to say 16 teams.

The more teams you have in the playoffs ... the less each week matters.
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I also heard that Notre Dame is guaranteed a berth every year if they crack the top 25, and if Texas gets in then the broadcast rights for the playoff games automatically go to the LHN. Contact your television service provider for plan package rates today.....
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It has absolutely nothing to do with garnet colored glasses, but I thank you for the compliment.

Why should it be any different from the FCS play-offs. I don't hear them complaining about it. As a matter of fact, it's what makes them relevant in the college football world.
Not a lot of people really care about the FCS. It's just good to have football on the Saturday's during the dead period waiting on bowls.
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Trust me, you don't want a 16 team playoff.
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NO, the playoff does NOT need to be 16 teams. If you lose 2-3 games and don't win your conference, you have no business playing for the National Title. It needs to be 8 teams, and it's open to the best 8 teams in the nation no matter what conference they're in.

We have 2 losses and 1 was to a team that we had no business even letting it be close against. Everyone can kick and scream all they want, but we blew our own chances.

Take the garnet colored glasses off ... if Clemson lost 2 games, one was to a team that won't even go to a bowl, would you want them having a chance to be National Champs? I doubt it.


Totally agree. 8 teams is the max and 2 or more losses should make you fall out of the system. Something does have to happen to insure that the 8 best teams play in this playoff, regardless of what conference that they play in. Some of these weaker conference champions that go undefeated in regular season play could not play against an 1 or 2 loss SEC Team. So, that being said, I think that it will never be right for everyone, especially SEC Schools since there is so many people against us in the country due to our constant winning seasons that most upper tier teams have in the SEC.
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Trust me, you don't want a 16 team playoff.
TOTALLY AGREE

If you go back and look at every year of the BCS (and even further back
if you'd like), you're usually going to see about 6-8 teams that honetly
deserve a shot at a National title. This year for instance would be one
of those years where you could argue only about 4 are Bona Fide
NC contenders based on the regular season schedules. YES, there's always
going to be a couple or three teams outside ANY post season selection
that will argue they should be in it for whatever reason...The next few
years, anyone outside the top 4-6 team in the country will cry about
not getting selected, if you expand it to 6 or 8, the four or five outside
that will cry about not having a shot etc......
Realistically though, about 6-8 teams a year are worthy of a shot regardless
of where they've been ranked in the polls. I think an 8 team playoff
would be as many as you need to decide a true National Champion every
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I'm sorry but what is Condaleeza Rice's qualification for being on this committee?
Daughter of a coach. Provost at Stanford. Little thing called Secretary of State. She's one of my favorite people on the committee. It's almost like she would be able to look at things from a critical angle with no real bias.
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NO, the playoff does NOT need to be 16 teams. If you lose 2-3 games and don't win your conference, you have no business playing for the National Title. It needs to be 8 teams, and it's open to the best 8 teams in the nation no matter what conference they're in.

We have 2 losses and 1 was to a team that we had no business even letting it be close against. Everyone can kick and scream all they want, but we blew our own chances.

Take the garnet colored glasses off ... if Clemson lost 2 games, one was to a team that won't even go to a bowl, would you want them having a chance to be National Champs? I doubt it.
If a 2 loss team can go and beat out the other top 15 teams in the nation than they earned the #1 ranking more than a team who plays zero competition and goes undefeated, like we reward now.
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I think 12 teams but could do 16 this way. You giving 6 auto bids to BCS leagues, 2 auto bids to highest BCS ranked non BCS teams than remaining 4 (12 teams) - 8 (16 teams) slots to whoever are the next 4 highest BCS ranked teams no mater conference affiliation.

Keep the small bowls for other teams. Use BCS bowls cotton and another big bowl for the round of 8 and on. Have a moving site like NFL does fit champ game big just reusing bowl sites. Do first round at home site of higher ranked team. This would also keep the integrity of week to week momentum and game planning. Bowl games are so weird when teams lose their flow over 50 day break and way too much time to game plan.
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