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Old 01-02-2014, 01:08 AM   #1
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As we are all happy today about winning our bowl game and since we are also giving credit to the Michigan State Coach who was a Gamecock at one time, I would like to add Coach Ellis Johnson to this list.

Could you imagine what his world has been like since he left USC to become Head Coach at Southern Miss and they lost all 12 games during his one year there before he was fired at the end of the season. The toll that this took on him and his family was bad enough losing all the games during the regular season and then to have to come home and tell your wife that you have been dismissed as Head Coach after one year had to be a bummer. Then Auburn comes along and offers him the DC job and he takes it and look what a "magical season this year has been for Coach Johnson"! Win or lose the NCG, it should not matter as he has done a 360 degree turn from how he was treated at Southern Miss. Congratulations to Coach Ellis Johnson and his family. He is a good man and will always be one of my favorite Gamecock Coaches.
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He should have been given a better chance at Southern Miss. He is a great coach. One season is BS to give a coach. It is obvious they never wanted him in the first place.
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As we are all happy today about winning our bowl game and since we are also giving credit to the Michigan State Coach who was a Gamecock at one time, I would like to add Coach Ellis Johnson to this list.

Could you imagine what his world has been like since he left USC to become Head Coach at Southern Miss and they lost all 12 games during his one year there before he was fired at the end of the season. The toll that this took on him and his family was bad enough losing all the games during the regular season and then to have to come home and tell your wife that you have been dismissed as Head Coach after one year had to be a bummer. Then Auburn comes along and offers him the DC job and he takes it and look what a "magical season this year has been for Coach Johnson"! Win or lose the NCG, it should not matter as he has done a 360 degree turn from how he was treated at Southern Miss. Congratulations to Coach Ellis Johnson and his family. He is a good man and will always be one of my favorite Gamecock Coaches.
Very good post and good points. I'm glad it's worked out for him in the end.
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I will never forget how many people complained about his soft-coverage on this board. And look where it helped get Auburn. Obviously they're there due in large part to their offense, but still.

I hope Auburn wins the National Championship for 3 reasons:

1. Trooper Taylor isn't there anymore.
2. Gene Chizik isn't there anymore.
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He should have been given a better chance at Southern Miss. He is a great coach. One season is BS to give a coach. It is obvious they never wanted him in the first place.
I never thought Ellis had the right personality for a head coach......he was a defensive guy and that's what he knew best.
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I never thought Ellis had the right personality for a head coach......he was a defensive guy and that's what he knew best.
I totally agree. But, if you hire him as a HC, you HAVE to give him more than one effing year. Good God, that was awful of SMU to do that to him. But, in retrospect, he is coaching a team that is playing for a MNC. So FU SMU.
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As we are all happy today about winning our bowl game and since we are also giving credit to the Michigan State Coach who was a Gamecock at one time, I would like to add Coach Ellis Johnson to this list.

Could you imagine what his world has been like since he left USC to become Head Coach at Southern Miss and they lost all 12 games during his one year there before he was fired at the end of the season. The toll that this took on him and his family was bad enough losing all the games during the regular season and then to have to come home and tell your wife that you have been dismissed as Head Coach after one year had to be a bummer. Then Auburn comes along and offers him the DC job and he takes it and look what a "magical season this year has been for Coach Johnson"! Win or lose the NCG, it should not matter as he has done a 360 degree turn from how he was treated at Southern Miss. Congratulations to Coach Ellis Johnson and his family. He is a good man and will always be one of my favorite Gamecock Coaches.
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I totally agree. But, if you hire him as a HC, you HAVE to give him more than one effing year. Good God, that was awful of SMU to do that to him. But, in retrospect, he is coaching a team that is playing for a MNC. So FU SMU.

I love Ellis Johnson as a coach. But SMU was not wrong in what they did at all.

Southern Miss went to a bowl game every single year from 1997-2011. In 2011, they went 12-2. During Ellis Johnson's single year? They went 0-12. Not only is that amongst the the largest single season drops in history of college football, they were the ONLY TEAM not to win a game in 2012.

He literally took 10+ years of Jeff Bower's work, and something Larry Fedora capitalized on, and drove it into the ground. It was literally the worst season in their program history. It killed not only the small circle of recruiting that Southern Miss had, but their attendance levels, and everything.

He set them back a few years...so SMU was perfectly fine with firing him. It didn't work out, it's okay now though.
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I love Ellis Johnson as a coach. But SMU was not wrong in what they did at all.

Southern Miss went to a bowl game every single year from 1997-2011. In 2011, they went 12-2. During Ellis Johnson's single year? They went 0-12. Not only is that amongst the the largest single season drops in history of college football, they were the ONLY TEAM not to win a game in 2012.

He literally took 10+ years of Jeff Bower's work, and something Larry Fedora capitalized on, and drove it into the ground. It was literally the worst season in their program history. It killed not only the small circle of recruiting that Southern Miss had, but their attendance levels, and everything.

He set them back a few years...so SMU was perfectly fine with firing him. It didn't work out, it's okay now though.
Im not sure he drove it into the ground. He needed time to establish HIS GAME PLAN. Cant take someone else's gameplan and try to go off that. What if Spurrier tried to that off of Lou's style of play?

Truth is, they didnt give him a chance. I know what you are saying, 0-11 is bad. But his system was with someone else's players, and he wasnt given a chance to implement what his style of play needed.
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Ellis wasn't great here, the best DC we've ever had here was Charlie Strong. Ellis Johnson plays soft coverage & doesn't adjust at all. He's not the reason why AU has done well. Their offense is the reason why their in the NC game, not the defense.
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I love Ellis Johnson as a coach. But SMU was not wrong in what they did at all.

Southern Miss went to a bowl game every single year from 1997-2011. In 2011, they went 12-2. During Ellis Johnson's single year? They went 0-12. Not only is that amongst the the largest single season drops in history of college football, they were the ONLY TEAM not to win a game in 2012.

He literally took 10+ years of Jeff Bower's work, and something Larry Fedora capitalized on, and drove it into the ground. It was literally the worst season in their program history. It killed not only the small circle of recruiting that Southern Miss had, but their attendance levels, and everything.

He set them back a few years...so SMU was perfectly fine with firing him. It didn't work out, it's okay now though.
For the record Southern Miss went 1-11 with their only win over a UAB team that went 2-10 so they didn't upgrade much. Ellis got a little bit of a short straw over there. I'm glad we have Ward and like his scheme a little more than in the past under Johnson but he's a heck of a D-coordinator. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get another HC gig at some point if he wants it but he might be just content with what he is doing now.
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I totally agree. But, if you hire him as a HC, you HAVE to give him more than one effing year. Good God, that was awful of SMU to do that to him. But, in retrospect, he is coaching a team that is playing for a MNC. So FU SMU.
well he did go 0-12
Rob Chudzinski, coach of the Browns, got fired after one year.....tough business.
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If it wasent for Gus' system at auburn he would be without a job
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I love Ellis Johnson as a coach. But SMU was not wrong in what they did at all.

Southern Miss went to a bowl game every single year from 1997-2011. In 2011, they went 12-2. During Ellis Johnson's single year? They went 0-12. Not only is that amongst the the largest single season drops in history of college football, they were the ONLY TEAM not to win a game in 2012.

He literally took 10+ years of Jeff Bower's work, and something Larry Fedora capitalized on, and drove it into the ground. It was literally the worst season in their program history. It killed not only the small circle of recruiting that Southern Miss had, but their attendance levels, and everything.

He set them back a few years...so SMU was perfectly fine with firing him. It didn't work out, it's okay now though.

Coach Larry Fedora left because he knew that the cupboard was going to be bare for the next season. Coach Johnson tried to play with what he had just like Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier had to do when they first got here. Coach Johnson was not there long enough to drive anything in the ground. As far as recruiting, USM has always held their own against Miss and Miss State without the money in the athletic dept. I will say for the sake of argument that Coach Ellis Johnson may not have been the best fit for that job, nor could anyone else that did not have the backing of the Athletic Dept. Football minded people knew that they were going to have a hard time at USM as they also had a terrible year this year and I think that they only won one game. But, my original post was what a great turn around of events for one of our own Gamecock Coaches. Coach Ellis Johnson is going to coach in the National Championship Game and whether he wins or loses, just look at where he has come from in the last two seasons! USM will continue to be mired in a slump for a couple of more seasons and then maybe they will come out and contend again. I hope that they do, but one year for a coach and then fire him, that's not enough time for anyone and even Nick Saban or Steve Spurrier could not have did any better with the talent that he had when he got there. Let's be happy for the man!!!
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Was Johnson ever a gamecock? I know he coached here, but dantonio is actually a former student athlete for the school. In my opinion, there's a big difference in the two.
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well he did go 0-12
Rob Chudzinski, coach of the Browns, got fired after one year.....tough business.
It is. But you have to think.... IF you bring in a new coach, with someone else's players, you have to give atleast SOME time to get his system into play. His style of play was different from the last coach. I know the fair only comes in OCT, but it wasnt fair for him. They didnt let him do shit, much less try and recruit and get players for his system.../shrug
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Coach Larry Fedora left because he knew that the cupboard was going to be bare for the next season. Coach Johnson tried to play with what he had just like Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier had to do when they first got here. Coach Johnson was not there long enough to drive anything in the ground. As far as recruiting, USM has always held their own against Miss and Miss State without the money in the athletic dept. I will say for the sake of argument that Coach Ellis Johnson may not have been the best fit for that job, nor could anyone else that did not have the backing of the Athletic Dept. Football minded people knew that they were going to have a hard time at USM as they also had a terrible year this year and I think that they only won one game. But, my original post was what a great turn around of events for one of our own Gamecock Coaches. Coach Ellis Johnson is going to coach in the National Championship Game and whether he wins or loses, just look at where he has come from in the last two seasons! USM will continue to be mired in a slump for a couple of more seasons and then maybe they will come out and contend again. I hope that they do, but one year for a coach and then fire him, that's not enough time for anyone and even Nick Saban or Steve Spurrier could not have did any better with the talent that he had when he got there. Let's be happy for the man!!!

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It is. But you have to think.... IF you bring in a new coach, with someone else's players, you have to give atleast SOME time to get his system into play. His style of play was different from the last coach. I know the fair only comes in OCT, but it wasnt fair for him. They didnt let him do shit, much less try and recruit and get players for his system.../shrug
no doubt he should have been given more time.....
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