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Old 01-02-2014, 05:15 PM   #21
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I don't like this at all. The good thing about singing with Jay is that his team makes sure you don't blow all your money and end up broke by the end of your playing career. That was his motive for having a sports agency, he said he was tired of seeing black athletes broke after their career was over. Something Bus probably doesn't give two shits about.
Bullshit. Jay-Z would take most of his money just like Master P did with Ricky Williams.
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Old 01-02-2014, 05:21 PM   #22
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Bullshit. Jay-Z would take most of his money just like Master P did with Ricky Williams.
Yea, okay. Go to the 3:40 mark and hear what the man has to say before you compare him to Master p.

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Bullshit. Jay-Z would take most of his money just like Master P did with Ricky Williams.
Master P did take any money from Ricky williams. The lawyer he employed for the contracts didn't know what he was doing. He wrote ricky the worst contract ever. Minimum league salary and crazy incentives but the goals weren't realistic. Some of them were Something like 5yds/carry, 2000 yds, 15 rushing tds, 15 receiving tds. These might not be exact but it was something crazy like that. I remember he made less than 4 million his rookie year while edgerin James made 15 million. Basketball contracts were easy they were slotted by the league you just signed ricky was the first football big guy for no limit and the guy didn't know what he was doing. The guaranteed money is the most important part of NFL because you could be cut at any time.
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The early talks about signing with Jay Z really helped add to the circus surrounding JD this year. Glad he reconsidered that one
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good move for Clowney, imo
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I don't like this at all. The good thing about singing with Jay is that his team makes sure you don't blow all your money and end up broke by the end of your playing career. That was his motive for having a sports agency, he said he was tired of seeing black athletes broke after their career was over. Something Bus probably doesn't give two shits about.
A half decent financial advisor can keep him straight.
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A half decent financial advisor can keep him straight.

They steal money too.

Watch ESPN 30 for 30 special on the great athletes that have gone broke.
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They steal money too.

Watch ESPN 30 for 30 special on the great athletes that have gone broke.

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A lot more on the site...

The agent he signed with his part of his own agency. James "Bus" Cook not only controls his own marketing firm, but Financial advisory firm as well.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:26 PM   #29
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Same as Jay Z.
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Same as Jay Z.
Not exactly. The major turnoff for Jay-Z and football is that Jay-Z currently is not licensed to be a NFL agent. That doesn't mean he cannot be an agent to an NFL player - but the NFLPA advises that all players be represented by someone licensed by the NFL.

Pretty much, the biggest factor Jay Z has going for him is that pretty much all athletes now-a-days are familiar with who he is, what he is about, and where he came from. That does not mean that he has a better track record than other famous agents.

The biggest turn off for Roc Nation Sports is that it's not even it's own agency. It's a partner-agency of Creative Arts Agency. While it wouldn't be stupid to sign with Roc Nation by any means, it's not a bad thing to sign with Bus Cook by any means either. Bus Cook has the track record to prove that is a respectable and dependable agent. He has been the agent of many high-caliber athletes.
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I give you credit for trying to discredit me but you need to realize what Jay Z is trying to do and why others are trying to keep him out of the NFL.
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I give you credit for trying to discredit me but you need to realize what Jay Z is trying to do and why others are trying to keep him out of the NFL.
What are you? The president of the Jay-Z fan club?

Get that trash outta here.
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No, I'm just saying what is true. If you haven't researched what he's trying to do, you should probably keep your mouth closed.
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No, I'm just saying what is true. If you haven't researched what he's trying to do, you should probably keep your mouth closed.
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1. NFLPA investigated Roc Nation Sports and Jay-Z into illegally recruiting Geno Smith to switch agencies.

2. NFLPA cleared Jay-Z of any wrong doing.

3. Jay-Z is still not a certified NFL Agent

These are facts.

James "Bus" Cook's track record with his client list is still far superior to Roc Nation Sports and/or Jay-Z's.
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Seems like a good choice. Like everyone else, I'm glad he didn't sign with Jay Z. Would have changed my entire image of JD.
And why would it have changed your image of JD??
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They steal money too.

Watch ESPN 30 for 30 special on the great athletes that have gone broke.

Take your 30 million and give it to Edward Jones. You wont go broke and they wont steal it. Every athlete likes to use a friend of friend that made them all kinds of money..
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Signing bonuses are where the money is at for rookies I believe.
He will make way more in sponsorship deals. The new rookie pay scale keeps those first contracts on the light side
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2. NFLPA cleared Jay-Z of any wrong doing.

3. Jay-Z is still not a certified NFL Agent

These are facts.

James "Bus" Cook's track record with his client list is still far superior to Roc Nation Sports and/or Jay-Z's.

I haven't been living under a ROC, I know all about what you're talking about. You're missing the entire point of what I'm telling you.

Other agents don't want Jay Z in the business because they know how smart and powerful of a business man he is. They know Jay is out to help these athletes who've been robed for years from agents. They know that if they allow Jay in, their jobs are in jeopardy. Look what he's accomplished in his lifetime. You do realize what Roc Nation is right? You do realize the connects Jay has right? He's a very powerful man.
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I haven't been living under a ROC, I know all about what you're talking about. You're missing the entire point of what I'm telling you.

Other agents don't want Jay Z in the business because they know how smart and powerful of a business man he is. They know Jay is out to help these athletes who've been robed for years from agents. They know that if they allow Jay in, their jobs are in jeopardy. Look what he's accomplished in his lifetime. You do realize what Roc Nation is right? You do realize the connects Jay has right? He's a very powerful man.

You're acting like he made a terrible decision. You're acting like the only agency that he should've even considered was RNS and Jay-Z.

Says a lot that Clowney met with Jay Z and still went another direction...
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I'n not acting like he made a terrible decision, it's Clowney's life.

And no it doesn't say much, just says Clowney went where he was "recruited" to go.
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