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Old 01-02-2014, 08:41 PM   #41
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I'n not acting like he made a terrible decision, it's Clowney's life.

And no it doesn't say much, just says Clowney went where he was "recruited" to go.
Let me get this straight. You're saying this:

1. Jay-Z is a very powerful man.

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You do realize what Roc Nation is right? You do realize the connects Jay has right? He's a very powerful man.
2. Jay-Z is trying to protect athletes by luring them away from the powerful agencies that are only in it to make a profit.

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They know Jay is out to help these athletes who've been robed for years from agents. They know that if they allow Jay in, their jobs are in jeopardy.

3. Jay-Z, who is out there to protect these athletes, who met with Clowney, who had his chance to explain what he was about, was out recruited by James "Bus" Cook?


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And no it doesn't say much, just says Clowney went where he was "recruited" to go.
So...this oh-so-powerful man (Jay-Z) with the plan to protect athletes by giving them an agency option that's not out there to steal money (every other agency) was just out-recruited by a company that doesn't care about Clowney and is going to rob him?

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They know Jay is out to help these athletes who've been robed for years from agents.


Okay, make's a ton of sense now.
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I haven't been living under a ROC, I know all about what you're talking about. You're missing the entire point of what I'm telling you.

Other agents don't want Jay Z in the business because they know how smart and powerful of a business man he is. They know Jay is out to help these athletes who've been robed for years from agents. They know that if they allow Jay in, their jobs are in jeopardy. Look what he's accomplished in his lifetime. You do realize what Roc Nation is right? You do realize the connects Jay has right? He's a very powerful man.
Jay Z is in the Jay Z business. The only person he is looking to help is himself. Is he offering lowered commissions? Matching investments or offering an independent financial advisor? Nope. He's offering the same thing as every other agent with the exception of the ability to use his name to get to a generation who obsesses over brand and name value.

It's no different than his desire to help the "occupy Wall Street" group.
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You're such a tool. You dissect any and everything just to get into a pissing match. You're worse than my ex and she's bi polar!

Yes Jay is a powerful man, so much so he gets White House clearance and talks to our President on the phone regularly. In fact some business schools have classes solely on Jay Z. Don't try and discredit the man. Clowney decided to go in a different direction, I'm sure it has nothing to do with Jay not being able to represent him properly. Maybe a personal preference. At the end of the day, what does it even matter? Is it worth arguing over? NO! Which is why I'm blocking you, nobody can post their opinion or even facts on here anymore without you patronizing them.
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Which is why I'm blocking you, nobody can post their opinion or even facts on here anymore without you patronizing them.

You going to block everyone that disputes your opinion with facts? You said everything, I just put the pieces together.


And to talk about bi-polar. This is coming from the person who randomly attacked me in a thread early this week. Then went on to continually attack me in private messages, to randomly stop attacking me in private messages to wish me a Merry Christmas and tell me you're just kidding. Then to rep me on a post, then to block me....Hm. I'm the bi-polar one though.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but Bus Cook's agency is trying to bolster its client base so they can sell it to another firm. Not sure what all this means for the future for Clowney and Bus, but that is what I read online.

I am glad he didn't sign with Jay-Z because Jay-Z does not know an expert amount about sports and athletes. If I were a pro athlete, I would sign with somebody who has plenty of experience with my field, and not Jay-Z.
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You going to block everyone that disputes your opinion with facts? You said everything, I just put the pieces together.

No, You gave opinions of why Bus was a better choice than Sean Carter. All you want to do is argue people down, that's why I'm blocking you.
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No, You gave opinions of why Bus was a better choice than Sean Carter. All you want to do is argue people down, that's why I'm blocking you.
You've had weeks to do it. You said you were going to do it last week. Will you fulfill this want already?

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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but Bus Cook's agency is trying to bolster its client base so they can sell it to another firm. Not sure what all this means for the future for Clowney and Bus, but that is what I read online.

I am glad he didn't sign with Jay-Z because Jay-Z does not know an expert amount about sports and athletes. If I were a pro athlete, I would sign with somebody who has plenty of experience with my field, and not Jay-Z.
Do some research first people...please!
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And to talk about bi-polar. This is coming from the person who randomly attacked me in a thread early this week. Then went on to continually attack me in private messages, to randomly stop attacking me in private messages to wish me a Merry Christmas and tell me you're just kidding. Then to rep me on a post, then to block me....Hm. I'm the bi-polar one though.
I didn't say you were Bi-Polar, I said you were worse than my ex who is bi-polar. I didn't attack you either, I just told you I was tired of you arguing with EVERYBODY about EVERYTHING. & yes I did send you a PM, I decided to apologize to you only because I knew that was the only way to stop the argument. It really took a toll on me having to arguing with someone with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I'm done with it for good now, enjoy bickering with someone else.
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Do some research first people...please!
After reading through this thread I find your repeated attempts to defend Jay-Z very odd.....
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Should have went to The ROC!!!


Guess he didn't see what Jay did for Cano.
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After reading through this thread I find your repeated attempts to defend Jay-Z very odd.....

With the profile pic you have, I think you should too.
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Well, Vic Hamton seems to be signing with Jay Z.
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I thought the new pay scale was just for base salary?
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I thought the same...???
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There is a freeze on signing bonuses for draft picks because the growth in minimum salary outpaces the growth of the cap. The same thing also occurred last year.

The signing bonus is a lot like "Slot price" for MLB draft picks. The days of 25 Mill signing bonuses are over.
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Remember when people said Jay Z was the reason Clowney wasn't having the year everyone expected?
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I think its pretty laughable if you honestly believe that jay-z gives two shits about any of his clients. He is only interested in making boat loads of money. He is doing exactly what you are defending him for. He is using his name to attract clients and take their money. Great choice by Clowney.
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Ok so Jay Z is stealing money but all the other agents aren't? GTFOH!
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