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Old 12-09-2013, 05:45 PM   #1
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Default Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

This doesn't really have to do with football.


This question has bothered me for years...can anyone tell me why that piece of Michigan jutting out from northern Wisconsin isn't apart of Wisconsin?

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I'll ask my boss when he gets in tomorrow. He's from Michigan (a Sparty).
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:02 PM   #3
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That's where 'yoopers' live, don't ya know?! Yah, sure! You betcha!
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

It goes back to the Toledo War. In a nutshell...the strip of land that borders Michigan in Northern Ohio was given to Ohio and in return Michigan got the UP (Upper Peninsula). The federal government thought that it was a "sterile region on the shores of Lake Superior destined by soil and climate to remain forever a wilderness." Soon after mineral deposits were discovered and the total amount of revenue from the UP of Michigan from those mines surpassed what California kicked out during the gold rush.

The part of the UP that sits directly above Wisconsin identifies closer with Wisconsin than it does Michigan. Tons of Packer fans up there. Once you get farther east the sports allegiances start to become more muddled. Tom Izzo and Steve Mariucci are both from the UP.

If you are intrigued by UP culture track down a copy of the movie "Escanaba In Da Moonlight." It's a movie about deer camp and might not translate that well outside of the upper midwest but for those who are from Northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, the UP, etc. it is one of the funniest movies ever made.
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It goes back to the Toledo War. In a nutshell...the strip of land that borders Michigan in Northern Ohio was given to Ohio and in return Michigan got the UP (Upper Peninsula). The federal government thought that it was a "sterile region on the shores of Lake Superior destined by soil and climate to remain forever a wilderness." Soon after mineral deposits were discovered and the total amount of revenue from the UP of Michigan from those mines surpassed what California kicked out during the gold rush.

The part of the UP that sits directly above Wisconsin identifies closer with Wisconsin than it does Michigan. Tons of Packer fans up there. Once you get farther east the sports allegiances start to become more muddled. Tom Izzo and Steve Mariucci are both from the UP.

If you are intrigued by UP culture track down a copy of the movie "Escanaba In Da Moonlight." It's a movie about deer camp and might not translate that well outside of the upper midwest but for those who are from Northern Wisconsin, Minnesota, the UP, etc. it is one of the funniest movies ever made.
Nice! The movie would probably play pretty well here as deer hunting is pretty much a right of passage, and your deer camp may be analogous to hunt clubs down here (I don't hunt, personally). My father talked of pheasant and bear hunting in SStM when we lived in Pontiac, MI.
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Default Re: Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

I watched that movie a while back, and had no idea it was about the UP of Michigan, just watched it as a comedy about hunting. It wasn't the funniest thing I've ever seen, but I'm not asking for my 2 hours back or anything. I would think if you weren't a hunter you might though.
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Is the UP part of the Cheesehead culture. I can't imagine how cold it is up there.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:59 PM   #8
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Default Re: Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

Watch How the States Got Their Shapes on the History Channel. They did a piece about this.
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There's always this little slice of weirdness as well:

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Old 12-10-2013, 02:17 AM   #10
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LOL that yuppie canadian territory.. lol idk honest. .been wondering this myself
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Default Re: Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

Wisconsin were too much wussies to take it from Michigan.
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Default Re: Maybe someone from Wisconsin can answer this

This is The Yooper's opus IMHO. "It's The Second Week of Deercamp'. Though "Gramma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" isn't horrible.


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I watched that movie a while back, and had no idea it was about the UP of Michigan, just watched it as a comedy about hunting. It wasn't the funniest thing I've ever seen, but I'm not asking for my 2 hours back or anything. I would think if you weren't a hunter you might though.
It's regional humor. If you are unfamiliar with the UP or northern Wisconsin it won't be as funny. In many ways it's not a comedy about hunting as much as it is a film about a unique regional subculture.

Even in Wisconsin there are quirky regional differences. The ties that bind are beer, Packers, beer, cheese, beer, sausage, beer, and beer. The southern part of the state is different than the northern part of the state. As a former governor once said; "Madison is 30 square miles surrounded by reality."

If you are going to the bowl game brace yourselves. You won't run into a fan base with the propensity to drink like Badger fans.

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This one, too. Done by a drunken Swede with an Etch-A-Sketch...

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I used to work with a guy from Wisconsin, great dude...awesome work ethic. Once he played a folk song for me, something about a shipwreck in one of the Great Lakes. I was really digging that song...but I've lost contact with him and I've never been able to find the song again.
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Wisconsin were too much wussies to take it from Michigan.
Yeah, but not as bad as those wussies in Alabama who got shafted out of all that nice gulf coast shoreline by Florida! LOL.
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The UP, Upper Peninsula, hence Yoopers. No it is not made of cheese. They did tests.
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I used to work with a guy from Wisconsin, great dude...awesome work ethic. Once he played a folk song for me, something about a shipwreck in one of the Great Lakes. I was really digging that song...but I've lost contact with him and I've never been able to find the song again.
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lol A guy from my office sngs this song all of the time.
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the Edmund Fitzgerald ???? Wow...beat me to it ^^^^^^^
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