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Old 01-12-2014, 06:49 PM   #21
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I think he's gonna be a bust IMO.

Matthews and Lewan are better but of course they can't get that high of a pick.
Yeah obviously Matthews and Lewan are the best. I'm trying to think of realistic choices. Apparently that really good CB from Okie State could be available.
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I honestly don't know if Carolina will go after a WR in the first round with the obvious need at OL and DB, so it may be a moot point. I would love to see them get a guy like Benjamin from FSU, but I doubt he will be available when we pick.
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My Mock Draft:

1st RD - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St

2nd RD - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech

3rd RD - James White - RB - Wisconsin

4th RD - James Hurst - OT - North Carolina (His injury should push him late in the draft)

5th RD - La'Damian Washington - WR - Missouri

6th RD - Hakeem Smith - SS - Louisville

7th RD - Logan Thomas - QB - Virginia Tech
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Players that need to go:

Jimmy Clausen - Don't why he even is listed on the roster

Derek Anderson - Guy doesn't even dress out half the time and he's old.

Jonathan Stewart - Can't stay healthy

Domenik Hixon - Incredibly inconsistent

Ben Hartsock - Waste of a roster spot

Byron Bell - Gets beat WAY too much

Josh Norman - Non-existent

Captain/Florence/Thomas - One of these guys is getting cut.

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My Mock Draft:

1st RD - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St

2nd RD - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech

3rd RD - James White - RB - Wisconsin

4th RD - James Hurst - OT - North Carolina (His injury should push him late in the draft)

5th RD - La'Damian Washington - WR - Missouri

6th RD - Hakeem Smith - SS - Louisville

7th RD - Logan Thomas - QB - Virginia Tech
Like this draft except for Logan Thomas is worthless.
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NFL got what they wanted a 49er and Seahawk matchup the NFL wasn't even hiding the botched officiating in this game. It's the top headline on NFL.com DREAM MATCHUP
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Players that need to go:

Jimmy Clausen - Don't why he even is listed on the roster

Derek Anderson - Guy doesn't even dress out half the time and he's old.

Jonathan Stewart - Can't stay healthy

Domenik Hixon - Incredibly inconsistent

Ben Hartsock - Waste of a roster spot

Byron Bell - Gets beat WAY too much

Josh Norman - Non-existent

Captain/Florence/Thomas - One of these guys is getting cut.

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I definitely agree with getting rid of Stewart and Clausen. Clausen will likely never see the field for us again, and Stewart has tons of talent, but he has had injury problems his whole career. The problem with getting rid of Bell is simple: who do you get to take the RT spot? I mean if he's the best on the team to play that position, you know the other options can't be good.
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Jimmy Clausen has been gone for a while. The only way Captain isn't back next season is we don't resign him.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:41 PM   #29
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I definitely agree with getting rid of Stewart and Clausen. Clausen will likely never see the field for us again, and Stewart has tons of talent, but he has had injury problems his whole career. The problem with getting rid of Bell is simple: who do you get to take the RT spot? I mean if he's the best on the team to play that position, you know the other options can't be good.
We have an entire off season to figure that out.


There are 5 o-linemen on IR, 2 of which are OT's. Move guys around, find someone that fits. Doubt they can be much worse than Bell.
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If the Panthers can land a big WR like Evans or Benjamin ....
Evans ain't gonna happen, unless we trade up - but he's def the most megatron-like prospect.
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I think he's gonna be a bust IMO.
Richardson had a good game against Clowney in '12, but JD pretty much hosed him this season. Exposed some problems, to be sure.
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sidney rice might be available in free agency. he counts 10 mil against the seahawks cap and is coming off a torn acl.
I'd really rather have a faster, more play-making type than SR, who is more a possession receiver.
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Panthers could have tried to get Boldin last season but were too stupid.
Weren't we negative in cap space at that point?
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(1) Yeah obviously Matthews and Lewan are the best. I'm trying to think of realistic choices. (2) Apparently that really good CB from Okie State could be available.
(1) I think Matthews is projecting as a late 1st/2nd round pick, and could be available.
(2) There's an excellent CB from Michigan St that might (with some luck) be around, as well.
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The problem with getting rid of Bell is simple: who do you get to take the RT spot?
I don't know. We've got Bruce Campbell on IR. Be interesting to see guards Silatolu and Kulbiga (the controversial draft pick last year), also coming off IR.
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Get rid of Shula. Please.
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Players that need to go:

Jimmy Clausen - Don't why he even is listed on the roster

Derek Anderson - Guy doesn't even dress out half the time and he's old.

Jonathan Stewart - Can't stay healthy

Domenik Hixon - Incredibly inconsistent

Ben Hartsock - Waste of a roster spot

Byron Bell - Gets beat WAY too much

Josh Norman - Non-existent

Captain/Florence/Thomas - One of these guys is getting cut.

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Clausen got cut before this season and Stewart isn't going anywhere....


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F you Marty. The team is spending a ton on the O thanks to shitty deals and yet the O is the major problem.
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:48 PM   #33
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Is Greg Hardy a free agent?
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Clausen got cut before this season and Stewart isn't going anywhere....
I think Clausen is actually on IR. At least he's listed at a couple of sites, as such.
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Is Greg Hardy a free agent?
Yep. That's one of the big issues, for sure. May have to franchise tag him, but it's going to be at least 10 mil, from what I've read.
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Cam Newton had a great soccer fake flop on the goal line.
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My Mock Draft:

1st RD - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St

2nd RD - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech

3rd RD - James White - RB - Wisconsin

4th RD - James Hurst - OT - North Carolina (His injury should push him late in the draft)

5th RD - La'Damian Washington - WR - Missouri

6th RD - Hakeem Smith - SS - Louisville

7th RD - Logan Thomas - QB - Virginia Tech
This would be a nice draft for us except for Logan Thomas.. He is a very poor man's Cam Newton.
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Evans ain't gonna happen, unless we trade up - but he's def the most megatron-like prospect.

Richardson had a good game against Clowney in '12, but JD pretty much hosed him this season. Exposed some problems, to be sure.

I'd really rather have a faster, more play-making type than SR, who is more a possession receiver.

Weren't we negative in cap space at that point?

(1) I think Matthews is projecting as a late 1st/2nd round pick, and could be available.
(2) There's an excellent CB from Michigan St that might (with some luck) be around, as well.

I don't know. We've got Bruce Campbell on IR. Be interesting to see guards Silatolu and Kulbiga (the controversial draft pick last year), also coming off IR.
The CB from Mich St, Dennard, is supposed to be the first CB taken... Mid round draft at latest I would say.
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Get rid of Shula. Please.
This. Shula is putrid and he needs to be showed the door.
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1st RD - Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St

2nd RD - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech

3rd RD - James White - RB - Wisconsin

4th RD - James Hurst - OT - North Carolina (His injury should push him late in the draft)

5th RD - La'Damian Washington - WR - Missouri

6th RD - Hakeem Smith - SS - Louisville

7th RD - Logan Thomas - QB - Virginia Tech
1 -> I wanna see Benjamin at the combine.

3 -> I don't like that pick. We have higher priorities (than RB) we might address at that (draft) position. I think his O-line at Wisky was better than him.

5 -> Looked up some draft analysis on Washington, he's projected round 6-7. But he's 6'4", 205, and apparently ran a 4.39 at some point.
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STRENGTHS: Washington possesses a combination of size and straight-line speed to intrigue every scout. His greatest value to scouts lies in his potential as a big play outside receiver. As his frame suggests, Washington is a long-strider who builds up to top-speed quickly. His impressive body control for his angular frame enables him to be in position to make big plays on the football.
WEAKNESSES: Unpolished route-runner who rounds off, and needs to do a better job of working back to the football. Catches with the body too frequently and needs to show better willingness to fight for the ball in the air.
Looks like he has the physical tools, and the stuff in green is all coachable.

7 -> I'm underwhelmed by Thomas passing the ball. But take a flyer on a 7th round pick? Maybe.
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(1) Derek Anderson - Guy doesn't even dress out half the time and he's old.

(2) Josh Norman - Non-existent

Captain/Florence/Thomas - One of these guys is getting cut.
(1) Disagree. He's a solid, cheap backup QB, who knows our system.
(2) Norman did kind of disappear, didn't he? Had a good pre-season, too. Only played in 3 games - think he was hurt most of the year.
(3) Captain was on a one-year contract, so it's just whether we sign him, or not. Think we will. I wonder how much influence that idiotic penalty will have on Thomas' fate.

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