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Old 01-28-2014, 01:06 PM   #41
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Pls forgive lenth...I know enought to recognize your information comes from a knowlege base. Certainly you, and every person, insert opinion and perspective thus allowing others to differ. I'm hoping you might offer me a little advise...
As a young man I was bigger, stronger. than most. 6'2.75, 220 pds, around 10-12% body fat, 23 reps @ 225 (gym reps, not neccesarily lock outs) decent mobility, bla bla.
A car wreck over 20 yrs ago cost me aproz 40% of my leg function so running, jumping, squating, even walking for distance cardio ws long lost.
Now 50 yrs old I lift to maintain strenth and some muscle but weight and body fat r high, around 240 pds, 18/19%. I primarily eat paleo, about 3 months now, sugar being my weakness.
If you can share lifting choices that might aid me in slimming while maintaining upper bopdy strenth needed to aid mobility. Anything you share is apreciated should you. thanks WVP
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Actually, you did. You questioned his commitment level and dedication.
Not what I was referring to in that comment.

What I'm saying is if he doesn't put on the good weight then it is not because "he can't gain weight" it's because he isn't dedicated or committed. That is all. And if he doesn't that is the truth. Like it or not.
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Yeah thats what I heard. After getting with the nutritionist he stated that he did not realize it was that easy to gain weight. I see no problem with him getting to 250 lbs before next year. Did anyone see Devin Taylor during his first year in the NFL. They got him to almost 290 lbs in less than a year.
just asking... did you mean "almost 290" or 270? lions have him listed @ 267. I haven't found pics where he appears radically larger yet and maybe he gained later in the yr. I only ask because I'd like to see. Maybe direct me?? thanks
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I saw a guy do this in college. It must have taken about a year. People made fun of him because he got super heavy in like 7 months, his face looked bloated and his stomach was huge. He'd come in a lift 3 reps of massive weights and drink water for 5 minutes between reps. Then I saw him like 6 months later and he looked like a body builder, said he ate strict diet and ran some, and worked out with slightly more reps.

I am a believer, just not willing to put my body through that. Don't have the discipline or time to devote that much to myself with a family. Should've done it when I was screwing around in college...
Wonder if the Sumo wrestlers do this? I heard they consume a lot of rice, to bulk up. Maybe they take out the slimming phase.
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Oh god another "weight" thread.

The kid had the means and access to add as much good weight as he wants to at USC if he is dedicated. He should of added it already. Something is wrong in the dedication department
Wow man, way to assume a lot. The coaches have said he can't put on weight becuase of metabolism, he was eatting for weight and by all reports working out hard. He said during bowl practices that the S&C coach got him with a nutritionist, and he started putting weight on during the season. Don't question our players or assume anything about people about whom you have no true reason to believe they are deserving of such treatment.
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He could be just like Vic Beasley was this year.
My thing with Beasley is he is 6'3. His 235 is a lot different than English's would be. Beasley has strong arms.

Also Beasley mostly flashed on passing downs.
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Darius has said that he came into school at 214. At media days last year he said he was at 235. That's 20 lbs.

It's not far-fetched to think he could add that again and maybe a little more after being on a college weight program and diet program for 2 full years.

He also said himself that he wanted to at least be 245 by next season.
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Wow man, way to assume a lot. The coaches have said he can't put on weight becuase of metabolism, he was eatting for weight and by all reports working out hard. He said during bowl practices that the S&C coach got him with a nutritionist, and he started putting weight on during the season. Don't question our players or assume anything about people about whom you have no true reason to believe they are deserving of such treatment.
He not eating enough. That is as simple as I can put it. I'm sure the nutritionist is helping him.

Anyone can gain weight. Its harder for some with higher metabolism and naturally lean yes, but it is always possible trust me. You just have to eat eat eat man. haha He'll figure it out eventually...hopefully...
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I agree. Work ethic is not a problem for English. Kid does everything he is asked to do.
No man...some guy on a message board, who isn't the team strength and conditioning coach, or its dietitian, or has actually sat with the players and set up a plan that best fits them knows what it takes for Darius to gain weight.

I'll trust our team appointed guys who are in constant contact with these players.
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He not eating enough. That is as simple as I can put it. I'm sure the nutritionist is helping him.

Anyone can gain weight. Its harder for some with higher metabolism and naturally lean yes, but it is always possible trust me. You just have to eat eat eat man. haha He'll figure it out eventually...hopefully...
Exact fvcking thing I said earlier in this thread.
EXACT FVCKNG THING!

"If is genetically proven some bodies gain weight easier than others.
Women gain weight easier than men...people that are born leaner have trouble gaining weight...English has a lean frame and it will be harder for him to gain weight."

While you can manipulate your metabolism, it is based a lot simply on your genetic makeup.
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Darius has said that he came into school at 214. At media days last year he said he was at 235. That's 20 lbs.

It's not far-fetched to think he could add that again and maybe a little more after being on a college weight program and diet program for 2 full years.

He also said himself that he wanted to at least be 245 by next season.
Maybe some of you body nuts can answer this: Is there potentially a price to pay (long-term health) for forcing your body into an "unnatural" weight gain?

Discuss.
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just asking... did you mean "almost 290" or 270? lions have him listed @ 267. I haven't found pics where he appears radically larger yet and maybe he gained later in the yr. I only ask because I'd like to see. Maybe direct me?? thanks
Last I heard they said he was listed at 287lbs I just rounded up. Dude look massive compared to his time here.
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Ya'll are also forgetting the kid is still 19 years old. Maybe 20 depending on when his birthday is. He's not old enough to drink yet. His body is still growing.

If he really is already 240 like some of ya'll have mentioned then I fully expect him to be 250-255 by the time august gets around if he sticks to his diet.
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Anyone can gain weight. Its harder for some with higher metabolism and naturally lean yes, but it is always possible trust me. You just have to eat eat eat man. haha He'll figure it out eventually...hopefully...
If it wasn't a NCAA violation, I'd just send my wife over to cook for him. That would do it...


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Are you a dietitian?
Or a professional body builder? Or a doctor?

If is genetically proven some bodies gain weight easier than others.
Women gain weight easier than men...people that are born leaner have trouble gaining weight...English has a lean frame and it will be harder for him to gain weight.

Of course, he could go to Bojangles everyday, then he would gain weight, but it would be useless.
Good weight is hard to gain...maybe if you actually got your ass off the couch and out of your ass you'd know that.


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Yeah thats what I heard. After getting with the nutritionist he stated that he did not realize it was that easy to gain weight. I see no problem with him getting to 250 lbs before next year. Did anyone see Devin Taylor during his first year in the NFL. They got him to almost 290 lbs in less than a year.
other than the weight gain, how strong is he....he looked OK if he could get around the edge, but if the OT got his hands on him, he was done....
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