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Old 02-02-2014, 09:31 PM   #41
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You got addicted by not following what your doctor recommended. You're exactly right, I haven't been through what you have, because I chose not too. You chose differently. "Disease" is an excuse, period. that's all there is to it.
Whatever dude. Yes people CHOOSE to do drugs we understand that. What you don't understand is after using for so long your body needs whatever drug your doing hence why people continue to use. Do some research before posting. Addiction is a disease. Seriously Google it.
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You are exactly right. Hoffman had no choice but stick that needle in his arm. From birth, he was destined to have that needle in his arm. There was no avoiding it. It's a disease. what a freaking joke of an excuse. I guess fat people have diseases where they can't put down the spoons, huh?
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...really-disease

This should end the debate, addiction is NOT a disease. This was the very first search result. You only become addicted because you have zero control and any discipline. Addicts suffer because they choose to shoot themselves up I have no sympathy for addicts if you had self respect you wouldn't treat your body that way. I feel for the families that are left behind but if you die from an overdose you basically committed suicide so no sympathy from me.
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Whatever dude. Yes people CHOOSE to do drugs we understand that. What you don't understand is after using for so long your body needs whatever drug your doing hence why people continue to use. Do some research before posting. Addiction is a disease. Seriously Google it.
Ok, bam, you just ended the debate for me. Whatever "disease" you have, is caused by your choice. No one chooses to have cancer. People choose to become addicted.
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This should end the debate, addiction is NOT a disease.
No, don't post that, the addicts don't agree. It's a disease. Clearly. It just comes upon people without warning. You just wake up one day and randomly become addicted to things.
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Ok, bam, you just ended the debate for me. Whatever "disease" you have, is caused by your choice. No one chooses to have cancer. People choose to become addicted.
Whatever you say man. Im done arguing. Im not proud of my past and have over come it and it has made me a better person. You have your views and I have mine. I've had plenty of doctors and therapists tell me its a disease. I think ill take their word over your and Stevesuperior
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Whatever you say man. Im done arguing. Im not proud of my past and have over come it and it has made me a better person. You have your views and I have mine. I've had plenty of doctors and therapists tell me its a disease. I think ill take their word over your and Stevesuperior
You do you man, i'm gonna go finish the super bowl. I think i'm addicted to it.
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Whatever you say man. Im done arguing. Im not proud of my past and have over come it and it has made me a better person. You have your views and I have mine. I've had plenty of doctors and therapists tell me its a disease. I think ill take their word over your and Stevesuperior
Hang in the brother, I'm with you all the way. Some people refuse to understand. Most of them are the ones that are in denial of their on addiction. Whatever it may be.
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It sure was.
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You do you man, i'm gonna go finish the super bowl. I think i'm addicted to it.
lol... ridiculous. Have a good night.
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Hang in the brother, I'm with you all the way. Some people refuse to understand. Most of them are the ones that are in denial of their on addiction. Whatever it may be.
Thanks man. Some people on this forum are ridiculous sometimes.
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It sure was.
No offense, genuinely, no offense, but i'm not gonna watch a cartoon video from youtube about addiction. Considering there was an article posted mere moments ago that will dispute everything that video says.
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Let me tell you what I think is sad. People feel sorry for a dum ass addict that dies from a overdose, but make fun of a fellow that accidently drinks gas, lites a cigarette and dies. Both men were wrong, difference is, one man is put on a pedestal because he was and actor, the other is a unknown. Where's the jokes about the addict?
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Thanks man. Some people on this forum are ridiculous sometimes.
Genuine question, and then i'm done. How am I being ridiculous? I'm making very valid points and all you can do is say i'm wrong. You don't provide any insight other than saying i'm wrong, or saying that people choose to do it, which is what I said, yet i'm being ridiculous? I'm sure the response i'll get with this is "i'm done. you just don't get it."
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If prescribed by a professional, sure. That's why we have medicine, to help. Not to latch on too.





No offense, genuinely, no offense, but i'm not gonna watch a cartoon video from youtube about addiction. Considering there was an article posted mere moments ago that will dispute everything that video says.

Your showing ignorance still...

Watch the damn video.
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Whatever you say man. Im done arguing. Im not proud of my past and have over come it and it has made me a better person. You have your views and I have mine. I've had plenty of doctors and therapists tell me its a disease. I think ill take their word over your and Stevesuperior
Yeah a therapist always tells the truth, they tell you its a disease so you don't feel bad about yourself because you make bad choices, no one just wakes up and thinks I am going to try a narcotic today, you decided that on your own. Because if that was the case someone will wake up tomorrow and decide you know what I am going to turn the stove on high and put my hand on it. Overdoses is Darwinism at it's finest.
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Genuine question, and then i'm done. How am I being ridiculous? I'm making very valid points and all you can do is say i'm wrong. You don't provide any insight other than saying i'm wrong, or saying that people choose to do it, which is what I said, yet i'm being ridiculous? I'm sure the response i'll get with this is "i'm done. you just don't get it."
Because I'm at work and on my phone. If you would like to have this conversation in a pm at a later time I'm all for it man. Kind of hard to prove my point on a phone while ringing up customers
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