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Old 02-12-2014, 10:40 PM   #21
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I get tired of the expectation to be so PC these days. Say what you want when you want as long as it isn't unnecessarily mean spirited. If I don't like it I just move on to another thread.

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I get tired of the expectation to be so PC these days. Say what you want when you want as long as it isn't unnecessarily mean spirited. If I don't like it I just move on to another thread.

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I think Surratt will start, then the other spot will be either Lamin or Griffin. But I also think Dukes and Dixon will see plenty of PT as well.
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Surratt and Dixon JR. will probably start IMO, with Lamin and Griffin backing them up. Not sure it stays that way though.
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then why mention it at all?
It's the biggest news story in sports at the moment, and Sam's name naturally evokes that part of his story right now. I didn't read the original remark as judgmental (and I'm staunchly supportive of Sam). Seems like too many threads are spilling over into divisive personal politics lately, and without much provocation. I think you have to read USC1 pretty uncharitably to construe his remark as implied insult. I'd save my righteous energy for something else.

I realize I probably just kept this issue alive by chiming in, so I suck too. Back to the thread topic.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:41 AM   #26
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Can C2, or anyone with a little more knowledge than me give a break down of where they see the DL 2 deep playing out, and what is holding back a highly touted guy like P Dukes from being a force in the middle? Will the line be a liability where it was our strength for the past few years, especially at DE.
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J.T. Surratt SR 6-2/307
Gerald Dixon Jr. JR 6-3/318
Phillip Dukes JR 6-3/315
Deon Green JR 6-4/287
Abu Lamin JR 6-5/315
Kelsey Griffin SO 6-2/292 - highest ceiling
Taylor Stallworth FR 6-2/290
Dexter Wideman FR 6-3/276

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Gerald Dixon JR 6-2/268 - great run support
Michael Washington JR 6-3/243 - ???
Mason Harris JR 6-3/218 - pash rush specialist
Jhaustin Thomas* JR 6-6/255 - will push Dixon by end of season for starting
Darius English SO 6-6/226 - highest ceiling / 20lb weight gain needed
David Johnson FR 6-1/268 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Gerald Turner FR 6-2/256 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Devin Washington FR 6-3/225 - I've heard good things but have not seen a lot of him.
Blake McClain FR 6-3/280 - red shirt
Kalan Ritchie FR 6-5/215 - red shirt
Dante Sawyer* FR 6-3/235 - ready to play / should break 2 deep at end of season with experience

* may not qualify

1st Half of Season
DE: Dixon / Thomas / Johnson / Turner
DT: Surratt / Lamin / Dukes
DT: Griffin / Dixon Jr.
DE: English / Harris / Sawyer / D. Washington


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It's the biggest news story in sports at the moment, and Sam's name naturally evokes that part of his story right now. I didn't read the original remark as judgmental (and I'm staunchly supportive of Sam). Seems like too many threads are spilling over into divisive personal politics lately, and without much provocation. I think you have to read USC1 pretty uncharitably to construe his remark as implied insult. I'd save my righteous energy for something else.

I realize I probably just kept this issue alive by chiming in, so I suck too. Back to the thread topic.

Didn't mean to offend anyone. I just mentioned the fact that he was gay. Never said it was a bad thing and never said I don't agree with gay people. I even complimented his size, speed, and hoped Dante had a motor comparable to Sam's. Was it the most professional comment? Probably not, but then again this is a message board.
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Didn't mean to offend anyone. I just mentioned the fact that he was gay. Never said it was a bad thing and never said I don't agree with gay people. I even complimented his size, speed, and hoped Dante had a motor comparable to Sam's. Was it the most professional comment? Probably not, but then again this is a message board.
I don't see how anyone could have taken your original comments as bad. The young man stated his own sexual orientation. You were just comparing two players. Sometimes people read too much into comments. I myself have been known to do this and ended up apologizing later.
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Will our D have better containment and who will be in the middle of our Dl line?
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then why mention it at all?
In case you aren't aware, like most people this day and age aren't.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


If its okay for people to say they don't see anything wrong with people being gay then its okay for people to say the do see something wrong with it.
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TACKLES
J.T. Surratt SR 6-2/307
Gerald Dixon Jr. JR 6-3/318
Phillip Dukes JR 6-3/315
Deon Green JR 6-4/287
Abu Lamin JR 6-5/315
Kelsey Griffin SO 6-2/292 - highest ceiling
Taylor Stallworth FR 6-2/290
Dexter Wideman FR 6-3/276

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Gerald Dixon JR 6-2/268 - great run support
Michael Washington JR 6-3/243 - ???
Mason Harris JR 6-3/218 - pash rush specialist
Jhaustin Thomas* JR 6-6/255 - will push Dixon by end of season for starting
Darius English SO 6-6/226 - highest ceiling / 20lb weight gain needed
David Johnson FR 6-1/268 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Gerald Turner FR 6-2/256 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Devin Washington FR 6-3/225 - I've heard good things but have not seen a lot of him.
Blake McClain FR 6-3/280 - red shirt
Kalan Ritchie FR 6-5/215 - red shirt
Dante Sawyer* FR 6-3/235 - ready to play / should break 2 deep at end of season with experience

* may not qualify

1st Half of Season
DE: Dixon / Thomas / Johnson / Turner
DT: Surratt / Lamin / Dukes
DT: Griffin / Dixon Jr.
DE: English / Harris / Sawyer / D. Washington


2nd Half of Season
DE: Thomas / Dixon / Johnson / Turner
DT: Surratt / Lamin / Dukes
DT: Griffin / Dixon Jr.
DE: English / Sawyer / Harris / D. Washington
Great type up. I could see Washington making a move. This could be a nasty line this year.

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Will our D have better containment and who will be in the middle of our Dl line?
If these guys can do that this will be a great year on the D. 2015 expect a potential 2011 LSU type of D especially if USC can get all of it's targets in 2015. The Stout line, great LB's, and the Legion of Boom. Man August can't get here soon enough. Wish I could hibernate until August.
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Dante Sawyer is way bigger than 235. He is almost 270.
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TACKLES
J.T. Surratt SR 6-2/307
Gerald Dixon Jr. JR 6-3/318
Phillip Dukes JR 6-3/315
Deon Green JR 6-4/287
Abu Lamin JR 6-5/315
Kelsey Griffin SO 6-2/292 - highest ceiling
Taylor Stallworth FR 6-2/290
Dexter Wideman FR 6-3/276

ENDS
Gerald Dixon JR 6-2/268 - great run support
Michael Washington JR 6-3/243 - ???
Mason Harris JR 6-3/218 - pash rush specialist
Jhaustin Thomas* JR 6-6/255 - will push Dixon by end of season for starting
Darius English SO 6-6/226 - highest ceiling / 20lb weight gain needed
David Johnson FR 6-1/268 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Gerald Turner FR 6-2/256 - athletic big guy should push Dixon and Thomas
Devin Washington FR 6-3/225 - I've heard good things but have not seen a lot of him.
Blake McClain FR 6-3/280 - red shirt
Kalan Ritchie FR 6-5/215 - red shirt
Dante Sawyer* FR 6-3/235 - ready to play / should break 2 deep at end of season with experience

* may not qualify

1st Half of Season
DE: Dixon / Thomas / Johnson / Turner
DT: Surratt / Lamin / Dukes
DT: Griffin / Dixon Jr.
DE: English / Harris / Sawyer / D. Washington


2nd Half of Season
DE: Thomas / Dixon / Johnson / Turner
DT: Surratt / Lamin / Dukes
DT: Griffin / Dixon Jr.
DE: English / Sawyer / Harris / D. Washington
great write up. thanks
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In case you aren't aware, like most people this day and age aren't.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


If its okay for people to say they don't see anything wrong with people being gay then its okay for people to say the do see something wrong with it.
I always did pretty well in my american history courses, thanks. some where in one of those important documents, i think it mentions that all men are created equal.

but i think you missed the point of my post, which was that sam's sexuality has nothing to do with our current dl. and that as such, the comment was at best extraneous
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I always did pretty well in my american history courses, thanks. some where in one of those important documents, i think it mentions that all men are created equal.

but i think you missed the point of my post, which was that sam's sexuality has nothing to do with our current dl. and that as such, the comment was at best extraneous
I understand that, but the man has the right to say what he wants as well as you do. Just wish people would get off all this PC crap. I have a good friend that is gay. That is his right to think it is okay for him to be that way. Just like its mine to think its not. It doesn't make him less of a person to me because we all do things that are not right.

If people don't stand up for what this country was built on then it will crumble. I was just stating the guy has the right to say what he wants.

Sorry for derailing the thread further.

Back to the thread ..... I hope Deke has the ability to turn these guys into monsters like Brad did. If he does then we should be just fine.
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I understand that, but the man has the right to say what he wants as well as you do. Just wish people would get off all this PC crap. I have a good friend that is gay. That is his right to think it is okay for him to be that way. Just like its mine to think its not. It doesn't make him less of a person to me because we all do things that are not right.

If people don't stand up for what this country was built on then it will crumble. I was just stating the guy has the right to say what he wants.

Sorry for derailing the thread further.

Back to the thread ..... I hope Deke has the ability to turn these guys into monsters like Brad did. If he does then we should be just fine.

I'm glad to hear you agree that it was an extraneous comment. my comment had nothing to do with pc-ness. I just wanted to stay focus...

I'm unsold on Deke so far. not that I dont like him, but just that I haven't decided if I do or do not like him. He's definitely got a boat load of talent to work with. that is for certain.
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What's great about our d-line is depth. While we're not going to have playmakers in the mold of Clowney/Taylor/Quarles, we've got almost three deep at every spot that we can rotate in without much, if any, drop off. That kind of depth will spur furious competition among the guys, and keep us fresh deep into a game.
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What's great about our d-line is depth. While we're not going to have playmakers in the mold of Clowney/Taylor/Quarles, we've got almost three deep at every spot that we can rotate in without much, if any, drop off. That kind of depth will spur furious competition among the guys, and keep us fresh deep into a game.
i think we'll see our DL best play in the fourth quarter
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Dante Sawyer is way bigger than 235. He is almost 270.
If he's that big now, hopefully he can stay around that weight. He is going to be a pass rushing force off the edge.
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I see Dukes starting for sure. That guy is a beast.
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