Schedule strength

The Yancey · 04-03-2014, 01:39 PM

Going into the season we have the #13 most difficult: http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/201...h-of-schedule/

Cocktober Surprise · 04-03-2014, 01:49 PM

And Bama at 95th...

Saban's good at three things: recruiting, coaching...and playing a sissy schedule EVERY season.

ZenUSC · 04-03-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocktober Surprise

And Bama at 95th...

Saban's good at three things: recruiting, coaching...and playing a sissy schedule EVERY season.

That schedule ranking looks very ACC heavy.

sunbeam · 04-03-2014, 02:02 PM

How is that possible? They have LSU, Auburn, and A&M guaranteed on the schedule. That is at least 3 top 20 teams, and two have a very good chance of being top ten when Alabama plays them.

So how exactly can their schedule be 95th? The past decade or so the West has been tougher year in and out than the east.

Cocktober Surprise · 04-03-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sunbeam

How is that possible? They have LSU, Auburn, and A&M guaranteed on the schedule. That is at least 3 top 20 teams, and two have a very good chance of being top ten when Alabama plays them.

So how exactly can their schedule be 95th? The past decade or so the West has been tougher year in and out than the east.

You just named the three quality teams on their schedule. That's about it.

That's why it's at 95th.

We play more than twice that many.

rosstheboss · 04-03-2014, 02:18 PM

a&m is not guaranteed to even be a ranked team next year. they lose a lot plus their D is absolute garbage. Plus, the article clearly shows how the rankings are figured out. Only by winning % of the previous year.

GamecockUltimate · 04-03-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocktober Surprise

You just named the three quality teams on their schedule. That's about it.

That's why it's at 95th.

We play more than twice that many.

I can knock Saban's scheduling stuff, they constantly play a good out of conference team like Michigan, VT, top 10 Clemson, sometimes at neutral sites or away.

Cock Kool-Aid · 04-03-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocktober Surprise

And Bama at 95th...

Saban's good at three things: recruiting, coaching...and playing a sissy schedule EVERY season.

This statement is false.

rioninusc · 04-03-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sunbeam

How is that possible? They have LSU, Auburn, and A&M guaranteed on the schedule. That is at least 3 top 20 teams, and two have a very good chance of being top ten when Alabama plays them.

So how exactly can their schedule be 95th? The past decade or so the West has been tougher year in and out than the east.

SOS goes by how many games teams won last year, BAMA is also hurt because their Cross division rival has been in a bind the past 5 years. They also have another team from the east that didn't do to well, named UF. That with 3 not so steller OOC games, and you have their SOS. I also think WVU ended the season at 4-8 last year. Yeah they are ranked appropriately in my book.

Does that mean they aren't that good? no
Does it mean they aren't the best team in the land? no
Does this hinder their chance at the final 4 playoff? probably so. They have to be perfect and dominate the 4 OOC teams.

That is what this playoff system if for. So at the end of the year if the Tide is 1 of the 4 teams in the playoff they will get to prove just how good they are.

GarnetSwarm1990 · 04-03-2014, 03:47 PM

Pre-season SOS means about as much as pre-season rankings. They are always based off last years teams. They don't take into account that they are completely different teams.

Cocktober Surprise · 04-03-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cock Kool-Aid

This statement is false.

Bama has been GREAT. Not knocking that or the results that have come from it.

But their showing in the end of year SOS is bolstered dramatically over the last five years based on the SEC Championship Game and their opponents in bowl games. Their regular season schedule is not in the Top 20 in the regular seasons during these years.

Now, I understand they do not control their SEC schedule s and it's not their fault they're drawing East teams during their down years...nor is it their fault some of their OOC games were signed when those teams were good, yet somehow those teams may be down once game day rolls around.

They, however, do not schedule difficult, IMO.

uscsandstorm85 · 04-04-2014, 12:38 AM

This shows how tough our conference schedule is.

Cocknfire55 · 04-04-2014, 12:57 AM

This article is somewhat flawed because it weighs W/L of FCS opponents the same as conference opponent. Let's be honest, a 6-6 SEC team is superior in talent than a 11-1 or 10-2 FCS team.

Ericvol2096 · 04-08-2014, 11:01 AM

yay for #3!

Dietz · 04-08-2014, 11:12 AM

Bring on the playoff system. That will equalize any weak schedules of perceived "great"teams.

lake-cityCOCK89 · 04-08-2014, 11:21 AM

take away FSU and USC from Clemson's sos and you'll see theirs drop dramatically.

Goofyboy · 04-08-2014, 12:29 PM

The method used to develop this ranking is so flawed it begs to be ignored. We should get tough schedule credit for having Coastal Carolina (a 12-3) team on our schedule even though we overwhelmed them few first teamers playing? Or Furman at 8-6 over Tennessee at 5-7? Or SC State at 9-4 over a 4-8 Florida?

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04-03-2014, 01:49 PM	#2
Cocktober Surprise Soup Spoon Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: North Augusta Posts: 164 CockyCash: 500	Re: Schedule strength And Bama at 95th... Saban's good at three things: recruiting, coaching...and playing a sissy schedule EVERY season. __________________

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sunbeam 4-Star Male Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: blahtown Posts: 459 CockyCash: 500	Re: Schedule strength How is that possible? They have LSU, Auburn, and A&M guaranteed on the schedule. That is at least 3 top 20 teams, and two have a very good chance of being top ten when Alabama plays them. So how exactly can their schedule be 95th? The past decade or so the West has been tougher year in and out than the east.

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rosstheboss Diehard Male Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greenville,SC Posts: 6,768 CockyCash: 461687660	Re: Schedule strength a&m is not guaranteed to even be a ranked team next year. they lose a lot plus their D is absolute garbage. Plus, the article clearly shows how the rankings are figured out. Only by winning % of the previous year. __________________ 2013 Alum. 5-0 vs Clemson

04-03-2014, 03:47 PM	#10
GarnetSwarm1990 Bowl MVP Male Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 2,251 CockyCash: 738	Re: Schedule strength Pre-season SOS means about as much as pre-season rankings. They are always based off last years teams. They don't take into account that they are completely different teams.

04-03-2014, 01:39 PM	#1
The Yancey Grumpy Old Fart Male Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sunshinny Florida Posts: 22,058 CockyCash: 4751350	Schedule strength Going into the season we have the #13 most difficult: http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/201...h-of-schedule/ __________________ Order Of The Spur I miss Old Cocky Talk

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uscsandstorm85 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Anywhere USC is playing. Posts: 3,092 CockyCash: 500	Re: Schedule strength This shows how tough our conference schedule is. __________________ "I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."-S. Spurrier on scheduling changes in the sec.

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Cocknfire55 Blue Chip Male Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Columbia Posts: 984 CockyCash: 244	Re: Schedule strength This article is somewhat flawed because it weighs W/L of FCS opponents the same as conference opponent. Let's be honest, a 6-6 SEC team is superior in talent than a 11-1 or 10-2 FCS team.

04-08-2014, 11:01 AM	#14
Ericvol2096 1st Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 4,211 CockyCash: 500	Re: Schedule strength yay for #3!

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Dietz Household Name Male Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 5,507 CockyCash: 1000200	Re: Schedule strength Bring on the playoff system. That will equalize any weak schedules of perceived "great"teams. __________________ North til you smell it, west til you step in it.

04-08-2014, 11:21 AM	#16
lake-cityCOCK89 Starter Male Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lake City, SC Posts: 1,342 CockyCash: 1000000	Re: Schedule strength take away FSU and USC from Clemson's sos and you'll see theirs drop dramatically. __________________ WINNING As easy as playing a Big 10 Team.

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Goofyboy 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sumter Posts: 3,156 CockyCash: 1000000	Re: Schedule strength The method used to develop this ranking is so flawed it begs to be ignored. We should get tough schedule credit for having Coastal Carolina (a 12-3) team on our schedule even though we overwhelmed them few first teamers playing? Or Furman at 8-6 over Tennessee at 5-7? Or SC State at 9-4 over a 4-8 Florida?

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