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Old 08-27-2012, 09:08 AM   #1
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Default Lorenzo Ward's Play calling

I have heard multiple times in interviews with Ward and the players that they are excited about the defense this season b/c they will have more blitz packages and simply be more "aggressive" during the games. Here is my question: Why in the hell would you do that?
I understand that you might want to try and apply pressure on the QB if you don't have a good d-line but that obviously is not our weakness. This makes no sense to me at all. Why would you pull coverage guys out of the 1st and 2nd tier to help apply pressure when we will already get plenty of pressure? All you are doing is taking away coverage guys from an already weak secondary. I know this sounds more exciting and everything to players and fans but I am a lot more happier with the idea of a boring a defense that finishes 3rd in the country by merely using its defensive line to force pressure and make the QB realize that he has no where to throw it b/c 7 other players are in coverage. The defensive line ultimately should be responsible to force turnovers and not mixed blitz packages. If you have that luxury then use it! If we come out blitzing and finish around 50th in the country in defense then don't be surprised.
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I have heard multiple times in interviews with Ward and the players that they are excited about the defense this season b/c they will have more blitz packages and simply be more "aggressive" during the games. Here is my question: Why in the hell would you do that?
I understand that you might want to try and apply pressure on the QB if you don't have a good d-line but that obviously is not our weakness. This makes no sense to me at all. Why would you pull coverage guys out of the 1st and 2nd tier to help apply pressure when we will already get plenty of pressure? All you are doing is taking away coverage guys from an already weak secondary. I know this sounds more exciting and everything to players and fans but I am a lot more happier with the idea of a boring a defense that finishes 3rd in the country by merely using its defensive line to force pressure and make the QB realize that he has no where to throw it b/c 7 other players are in coverage. The defensive line ultimately should be responsible to force turnovers and not mixed blitz packages. If you have that luxury then use it! If we come out blitzing and finish around 50th in the country in defense then don't be surprised.
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You know why Arkansas ate up Ellis Johnson the last 3 years? Because we sat back and let them attack us.

We also avoided playing competent passing teams last year which inflated our stats defensively against the pass. The teams that did throw the ball well, ate our defense for lunch, statistically speaking.
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Let me pull some stats up for you but if you don't blitz and the offense knows that they will eat you up b/c all they have to do is roll the QB out and play the numbers game.....When Ward says we will blitz more it does not mean you are going to see a blitz every play but when he sees the opportunity to blitz where Ellis might have not he is going to do it.

Blitzing is not a bad thing even if you have a great line b/c it makes a QB think and make a quicker decision and this is where INT's and bad throws come in. You may think Clowney and Taylor are the best thing since slice bread but they are still blockable and if a team knows we aren't going to blitz they will sceam against that and eat us up like Arkansas did last year!
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:27 AM   #6
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Coaches say stuff like that in interviews too. I expect we'll be very similar. I remember mike minter talking about how he was going to be more agressive.
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My list of the best DC's we've had during my lifetime:1) Charlie Strong: 2) Ellis Johnson: 3) Joe Lee Dunn
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The OP's points aren't bad but I also think Ward clarified this a few weeks back. He said he won't be reckless with it but wants to create more confusion by using angles and delays. While we've gotten excellent pressure, I felt our blitzes under EJ, overall, were mostly useless. They were picked up most of the time.
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I have heard multiple times in interviews with Ward and the players that they are excited about the defense this season b/c they will have more blitz packages and simply be more "aggressive" during the games. Here is my question: Why in the hell would you do that?
I understand that you might want to try and apply pressure on the QB if you don't have a good d-line but that obviously is not our weakness. This makes no sense to me at all. Why would you pull coverage guys out of the 1st and 2nd tier to help apply pressure when we will already get plenty of pressure? All you are doing is taking away coverage guys from an already weak secondary. I know this sounds more exciting and everything to players and fans but I am a lot more happier with the idea of a boring a defense that finishes 3rd in the country by merely using its defensive line to force pressure and make the QB realize that he has no where to throw it b/c 7 other players are in coverage. The defensive line ultimately should be responsible to force turnovers and not mixed blitz packages. If you have that luxury then use it! If we come out blitzing and finish around 50th in the country in defense then don't be surprised.
50th in the country? I totally agree with you, if you are talking about when they blitz blindfolded walking backwards...on their hands. Even at that, you are still looking at a top 25 finish as long as they have the correct handstand technique down, needless to say of course...
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The D line drops in a lot of packages so just because you blitz doesn't mean you lose numbers in coverage 100% of the time. Mixing up where the pressure is coming from and dropping our D line into coverage underneath will be a very difficult defense to play call against.
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My list of the best DC's we've had during my lifetime:1) Charlie Strong: 2) Ellis Johnson: 3) Joe Lee Dunn
All I can remember from Charlie Strong's defense, was giving up 3rd and long and 3rd and very long.
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Ideally, yes you get pressure with only 4, but that won't happen consistently against many of the teams we play. As for the reasoning on our secondary getting eaten alive if we blitz you can also make the argument that they'll get destroyed if we don't blitz, as it's easier to cover a WR for 3 seconds then it is for 10. I don't think Ward will be stupid with it, as opposing playcallers will just dial up plays that take advantage of an overly aggressive D.
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Well I was just thinking how horrible our offenses were then, but I guess you're right, and they were pretty mediocre to terrible for Ellis as well. Charlie's best defense might have been in 1999 when we went winless, man that offense was crap. Let me revise: 1) ellis johnson; 2) Charlie strong; 3) Joe Lee Dunn
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I don't think that we really know what Ward plans to do. After a few games, we can get an idea. Right now, its all just talk. He may not blitz much at all. He might just be saying that to throw teams off.
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E.J. called a lot of base defenses last year. Teams like Arkansas will eat those up. If you aren't switching things up, and getting to the QB, you're bound to give up some yardage.
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Seems to me that we've got an awesome d line that most of the time can give an O line all it can handle. By sending in an extra guy (see first D play of the clemson game I believe) you stand a pretty good chance of breaking that line and getting to the QB. Do it in different and creative ways several times a series and the O won't know what hit 'em. Confusion and frustration for the O will result, and our O will get the ball back a lot faster and with better field position.
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Alright some stats from the teams we played last year:

ECU- 29th Passing went for 260yds
UGA- 48th Passing went for 248yds
NAVY- 119th Passing went for 61yds
VANDY- 97th Passing went for 73yds
AUB- 105th Passing went for 112yds
KEN- 114th Passing went for 17yds
MISS ST- 94th Passing went for 165yds
TENN- 50th Passing went for 151yds
ARK- 13th Passing went for 299yds
FLA- 89th Passing went for 119yds
CIT- Not listed don't really matter the threw the ball like once
CLEM- 21st Passing went for 83yds (This stat is inflated cus Boyd had a good first half of the season)
NEB- 104th Passing went for 116yds


Overall Carolina Defensive Stats:

Sacks- tied for 25th with 31 (This could be improved big time with the blitz)
INT- tied for 6th with 19 (This is going to drop with our lack of depth)
PPG- 10th with 18.4
YDS- 2nd with 3480 (WE GOT KILLED ON THE RUSH see next stat but mostly cus of Navy and Citidel in the same year)
RUSH- 46th with 1768yds
PASS- 2nd with 1712yds but this is skewed


So looking at the passing we were second in the nation but 7 teams out of the 13 teams on our schedule that were 89th or worse in the country in passing! Two out of the three teams in the top 21 killed us in passing ECU and Arky.....UGA who was 48th in passing killed us with 248yds they found our weakness! Our defense was good last year but this is a different team with some different players and Ward is gonna do what he needs to do to win football games! Blitzing will help also in the sense of rushing the QB and give him less time to sit and read the defense which will allow the DB's and Saftey's a chance at more picks!
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The D line drops in a lot of packages so just because you blitz doesn't mean you lose numbers in coverage 100% of the time. Mixing up where the pressure is coming from and dropping our D line into coverage underneath will be a very difficult defense to play call against.
This is so true! When you have huge DE's like Taylor and Clowney and if you even go back to some of our more athletic guys like Norwood when he did play DE and Ingram you would see these guys drop into coverage and do a damn good job at it and even get some INT's! I love this in a defense b/c if the DE drops you have no idea sometimes where the other guy that may be rushing is coming from!

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Seems to me that we've got an awesome d line that most of the time can give an O line all it can handle. By sending in an extra guy (see first D play of the clemson game I believe) you stand a pretty good chance of breaking that line and getting to the QB. Do it in different and creative ways several times a series and the O won't know what hit 'em. Confusion and frustration for the O will result, and our O will get the ball back a lot faster and with better field position.

This is so on point! Confusion is a defenses best friend! Blitzing is used to keep the Offense on their toes and keep them honest.....If you rush 4 and drop the rest the whole game that is pretty easy to scheme against!
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We also avoided playing competent passing teams last year which inflated our stats defensively against the pass. The teams that did throw the ball well, ate our defense for lunch, statistically speaking.
Yep! This is my biggest concern going into the year. Any team with a decent passing game last year killed us(besides clemson) and we lost our top 3 corners and Allen at Spur. It doesn't help that our depth at CB and S is razor thin.
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