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Old 04-29-2014, 05:18 PM   #41
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Actually, Zimmerman was found not guilty. Just sayin'.

Also- who gives a **** about the MSM? Don't like it? Don't watch it.
Simple solution.

The Sterling incident has NOTHING to do with the MSM.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that Sterling made statements (often times, publicly) that jeopardized the profitability of the NBA (however marginally)

Again- this strange, pseudo-defense of Sterling is very unsettling.
And telling.
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Where is the outrage about this. Hypocrisy exposed yet again.
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They are treading on dangerous ground with this decision. Everybody of all races better be held to the same standard on this issue or the shit is going to hit the fan. The guy is clearly a racist, but I just never knew private conversations could be used by an employer to fire someone. I would love to know some of the skeletons in the closet of some the people raising hell over this.
I kind of agree. I know a lady that was fired for a facebook post on a private facebook page. I still haven't figured out how her employer had the right to do that
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Where is the outrage about this. Hypocrisy exposed yet again.
JayZ does not own any part of the Nets anymore. He had to sell it when he became an NBA agent
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Must be nice to rape people's FREEDOM OF SPEECH, this is not the country I served for 6.5 years in the military. I don't hear you demanding that Jay-Z be forced out when he has been caught publicly BANNING WHITE PEOPLE from an afterparty. I can't stand blatant hypocrisy. By the way if you don't believe everyone is an entitled to their own opinion then please remove yourself my country. But then again I am expecting people to actually think like a libertarian.
You'd think someone that defended our freedom would know what they were defending.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with freedom of consequences from speech.

That's basic high school civics, and the reason why Sterling got the ban hammer.
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I would be willing to bet he sues the hell out of that chick that taped him.

I do take a exception to all the people acting like the clippers were slaves and had such a hard professional life.
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You'd think someone that defended our freedom would know what they were defending.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with freedom of consequences from speech.

That's basic high school civics, and the reason why Sterling got the ban hammer.
It was a PRIVATE conversation can anyone not process that? It wasn't a press conference with him in an official capacity for the Clippers.
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Anytime something like this happens I get so frustrated at the people screaming 1st ammendment rights! Why do people not understand how it works? Sure you can say whatever the hell you want, nobody is saying you can't, but your peers/employer can react and punish/fire you if they deem your statements unacceptable or not in line with their companies beliefs.

I am free to come in and call my boss a moron but she is also free to fire me immediately afterward. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.

The fact that he was illegally recorded is a separate issue (he may seek legal action against whoever recorded him without his consent, however, that does not change what he said)
The NBA can take action on the recordings and punish him even though those recordings could not be used against him in a court since they were taken without permission.
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It was a PRIVATE conversation can anyone not process that?
I am not sure what that changes? This isn't a court of law. Nothing being done is by the government. This is all being done by the association he willingly became a part of and whose bylaws he submitted to by becoming an owner of a team.
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Thought he was still part owner of the Nets but that video represents the rapper thugs that the NBA pals around with? Why hasn't the NBA distanced themselves from that divisive garbage instead they embrace it.
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Anytime something like this happens I get so frustrated at the people screaming 1st ammendment rights! Why do people not understand how it works? Sure you can say whatever the hell you want, nobody is saying you can't, but your peers/employer can react and punish/fire you if they deem your statements unacceptable or not in line with their companies beliefs.

I am free to come in and call my boss a moron but she is also free to fire me immediately afterward. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.

The fact that he was illegally recorded is a separate issue (he may seek legal action against whoever recorded him without his consent, however, that does not change what he said)
The NBA can take action on the recordings and punish him even though those recordings could not be used against him in a court since they were taken without permission.
He will be a person worth over a billion suing his former model girlfriend. It's certainly possible he "wins" but he will certainly lose the more this is in the news.
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I don't get it. I mean I would think the guy would have eventually had to step down and/or sell the franchise just because the players would boycott the franchise.

Obviously, his personal views are considered to be in poor taste in the U.S. in 2014 by a lot of people... but it seems like the NBA really went overboard on this one. I mean you're basically banning and fining an 80 year old man for being racist. WTF.

I mean, what's next? Is a disgruntled employee going to record a 70 year old owner saying he thinks homosexuality is a sin? This just seems kind of wrong.
That doesnt make sense to you ?
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I am not sure what that changes? This isn't a court of law. Nothing being done is by the government. This is all being done by the association he willingly became a part of and whose bylaws he submitted to by becoming an owner of a team.
Agreed. His mistress should be thrown in jail though. What a hot piece of crap she is.
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It was a PRIVATE conversation can anyone not process that? It wasn't a press conference with him in an official capacity for the Clippers.

If you were Adam Silver, what would you have done?
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Thought he was still part owner of the Nets but that video represents the rapper thugs that the NBA pals around with? Why hasn't the NBA distanced themselves from that divisive garbage instead they embrace it.
Because none of that garbage, as you put it, is considered equal to racism by the society at large that we live in. The NBA has done some things to distance itself from the hip-hop community, including dress codes, etc. But you might want to consider the fact that the people who listen to and produce that music are some big patrons of the sport.
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Theoretically, the media reflects public sentiment.

So, if the public gets up in arms over those incidents you say were missed...well, go start a protest. Raise a stink. Make your voice heard.

But if you do none of those things- don't whine and complain when an incident IS called for what it is...in this case, blatantly racist.


I honestly do not get the reaction by some on this (and other) forums. Reactions like this, where people seem to want to dismiss this incident because of a perceived injustice that didnt invoke equal outrage.

Its incredibly odd.
I have no issue, just stating a fact. This guy got what he deserved, he should learn to be more accepting of people of other races. I do hate how he was brought out though. That is a private message being portrayed publically, he should be able to sue some people.
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Anytime something like this happens I get so frustrated at the people screaming 1st ammendment rights! Why do people not understand how it works? Sure you can say whatever the hell you want, nobody is saying you can't, but your peers/employer can react and punish/fire you if they deem your statements unacceptable or not in line with their companies beliefs.

I am free to come in and call my boss a moron but she is also free to fire me immediately afterward. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.

The fact that he was illegally recorded is a separate issue (he may seek legal action against whoever recorded him without his consent, however, that does not change what he said)
The NBA can take action on the recordings and punish him even though those recordings could not be used against him in a court since they were taken without permission.
The fact that the NBA used an illegal taping should put the whole thing to rest, it wasn't legally obtained making in inadmissible.
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It was a PRIVATE conversation can anyone not process that? It wasn't a press conference with him in an official capacity for the Clippers.

I totally agree. This was a private conversation in his home, with his girlfriend. He did not publicly come out with this. Who is to say she didn't bait him into saying these things. And why the hell would his girlfriend tape it if she did not have anything to gain from this. Magic was shagging the girlfriend and probably paid her off to get him to say something so he could buy the clippers. Magic is an HIV infested scum and if you think for one minute this wasn't a set up then you are just blind or stupid.

I don't agree with Sterling's statements at all, but the man is entitle to his private opinion. And a man is entitled to not be recorded and then have the recording pimped out to the world. We live in a sorry world.
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I'm so glad you don't have a degree from my University.
1)Let's just say your were recorded, without your knowledge, in the privacy of your home on a particular topic. The next day you show up for work and your company says that you are not only fired but will be banned from that profession for life. Let's say you were a surgeon or lawyer. Are you telling us that you would not be out hiring legal assistance because your rights were clearly violated? THIS IS A YES OR NO QUESTION
2) racist person: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race...... Are my eyes deceiving me or is his 'girlfriend' black?
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