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Old 05-10-2014, 08:34 PM   #41
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Kelcy is a Giant for now. Hope he works hard and finds a place on the team. Feel bad for Vic and Shaw.
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:30 PM   #42
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Someone needs to show our younger guys this list: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...2014-nfl-draft

Alot of bigname college guys on there. Def.no need for a RB to come out early.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:21 PM   #43
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Someone needs to show our younger guys this list: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...2014-nfl-draft

Alot of bigname college guys on there. Def.no need for a RB to come out early.
Well there were no elite rbs in this class.

Mike Davis and Todd Gurley will go in the top 20 next year if their production is on par with this year.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:25 PM   #44
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Well there were no elite rbs in this class.

Mike Davis and Todd Gurley will go in the top 20 next year if their production is on par with this year.
I wouldn't bet on it. The RB is quickly becoming the least valued position in terms of drafting.
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Well there were no elite rbs in this class.

Mike Davis and Todd Gurley will go in the top 20 next year if their production is on par with this year.
No way. RBs just aren't valued highly anymore, even the really good ones
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People saying they're glad Vic left? Have you seen our depth chart this season?

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I wouldn't bet on it. The RB is quickly becoming the least valued position in terms of drafting.
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No way. RBs just aren't valued highly anymore, even the really good ones
Just look at the Trent Richardson pick, elite 3 down RB's who can catch and pass protect will still be highly valued.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:53 PM   #48
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No way. RBs just aren't valued highly anymore, even the really good ones
While I agree, there wasn't a back in this draft that came close to Gurley or Davis in terms of sheer quality. I guess you could make an argument for Carlos Hyde, but I wouldn't be convinced. I think we could see Gurley and possibly Davis both go in the first next year, provided they stay healthy and stay on the tear they've been on. They won't go high, but they could definitely go on Day One.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:35 AM   #49
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I wonder how Vic feels right now?
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:00 AM   #50
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Terrible. You should call him up and rub his face in it. That would be the classy thing to do.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:21 AM   #51
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Terrible. You should call him up and rub his face in it. That would be the classy thing to do.
If I was Victor and someone did that to me, after a life long dream was snatch away, I would probably beat the crap out of them lol
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:31 AM   #52
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Of course it's ultimately these guys' decision to leave early or not, but there is a lot of bullshit thrown at them by the agents and runners who are trying to stockpile clients in the hopes to improve the amount or really total value of contracts they represent. Vic never even sent in his paperwork, I believe, to the NFL advisory panel, but he had runners probably telling him he'd be a 2nd-3rd Rd draft.

I have no idea wtf happened to Kelcy, besides the nightclub incident. When was the last time a 1st Team All SEC/multiple list All American DT didn't get drafted?!?!

Also, who were Kelcy and Vic's agents? They were awful.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:39 AM   #53
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Just look at the Trent Richardson pick, elite 3 down RB's who can catch and pass protect will still be highly valued.
That's not a good pick to defend your position. Richardson sucks.
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The NFL is only looking for Felix Jones/Darren McFadden kinds of backs these days. SO in other words, I guess every starting RB Alabama has will get drafted, they all seem to.
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If I was Victor and someone did that to me, after a life long dream was snatch away, I would probably beat the crap out of them lol
I wouldn't say it was snatched away. Vic made a business decision and it was the wrong one. Happens all the time.
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As for KQ - I really did think that coming out was the right decision. Not sure why he didn't get drafted. The nightly thing cannot be much of an issue. Seantrel Henderson was drafted and so was Prince Shembo ( accused of rape and alleged victim later committed suicide). Plus the likely #1 pick next year is a thief and an accused rapist.
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i wish there was a way for someone to come back if they weren't drafted...as long as the agent wasn't paid a dime unless the player was drafted.
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Please most of these guys pick a major thats going to coincide with their schedule, it has minimal value in the real world.
I agree that a college degree doesn't mean as much as it used too, but it has more than a minimal real world value. You almost have to have a degree now to get a decent job unless you learn a trade or have some other in demand skill set.
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Just look at the Trent Richardson pick, elite 3 down RB's who can catch and pass protect will still be highly valued.
That was a really bad pick, and CLE was lucky to hoodwink the Colts out of that first-rounder, on the trade.
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I'd be fine with that as well -> but then they would have to continue attending class, and (probably) attend winter workouts (with the team). They wouldn't be able to go in for the specialized training these guys get nowadays, in preparation for the Combine.

And o course, a condition for this arrangement would also forbid their retaining an agent. But then there are difficulties arranging individualized workouts/interviews, and general prep, which I believe is usually the agent's responsibility.
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While I agree, there wasn't a back in this draft that came close to Gurley or Davis in terms of sheer quality. I guess you could make an argument for Carlos Hyde, but I wouldn't be convinced. I think we could see Gurley and possibly Davis both go in the first next year, provided they stay healthy and stay on the tear they've been on. They won't go high, but they could definitely go on Day One.
No RB was taken in the first round in the 2013 or 2014 drafts. The NFL is a passing league, RB just aren't as valuable. And don't bet on Gurley, he's got a history if injuries.
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