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Old 07-28-2014, 12:58 PM   #1
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Exclamation Not a Rival..

I keep seeing posts referring the our new annual meeting with tamu as our new "rival." There is nothing that makes this a "rivalry." No history, no drama, no hate, and no geography rivalry here. This is supposed to become a trophy game, but why??????
Anyone else tired of this being referred to as a rivalry?
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:01 PM   #2
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I consider our next opponent a rival. Our next opponent just happens to be them.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:02 PM   #3
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

I think the annual meet up is great for both schools...one of the "better" cross division matchups in the SEC now. I see it becoming a rivalry farther down the road.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:04 PM   #4
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It's our new permanent cross division opponent to replace Arkansas. It will be our Western Division rival soon enough...
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:07 PM   #5
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

Don't get me wrong I like the fact that they are now our perm cross-division opponent. Maybe we can put our hand in the texas recruiting cookie jar. Also this matchup is more nationally appealing than Arkansas.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:38 PM   #6
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity.

They sound like a rival to me. Technically everyone we play is a rival, and as it stands we'll be playing A&M every year, which is not true of every western division opponent. I think that's enough for them to be called a rival without being annoyed by it.
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:03 PM   #7
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Anyone else tired of this being referred to as a rivalry?
Yup...kinda stupid to me. I guess this means any team that USC has never played is a rival as well? Or maybe everyone is a rival?
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:08 PM   #8
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It's our new permanent cross division opponent to replace Arkansas. It will be our Western Division rival soon enough...
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

I agree...we have one rival and that's it. We like to say some other east schools are rivals, but the closest we come is UGA and I believe we would be 5th or so on their list.
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

Rival... maybe... hated Rival... no way. I have met a number of A&M fans. They were all respectful, yet very supportive of their team. Not like the Rednecks from the upstate or the fans of that team from JAWJA
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:30 PM   #11
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If they whoop our butts a few times the way r-kansas did under petrino things will heat up real quickly.
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Old 07-28-2014, 03:40 PM   #12
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

Kinda just wish they would go to a 9-game SEC schedule and have us play 3 different SEC West teams every year.

We get a "rivalry" with A&M, the furthest school from us just about, at the expense of maintaining a consistent connection with any other SEC West school.

Sounds pretty silly to me.
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I've said it 1,000,000 and I still believe it.

The SEC front office only cares about 3 rivalry games.

Alabama vs Tennessee
Auburn vs UGA
Aubrun vs Alabama

The ONLY reason the SEC maintains the cross division rivals to protect these 3 historic games.

Here's the simple solution to keep the 8 game SEC schedule.

Move Alabama and Auburn to the east.
Move Vandy and Missou to the west.
Drop the cross division rivals.
Everyone plays everyone every 4 years.
Problem solved.
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

I realize that's a typo - but Auburn-Alabama isn't cross division...


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Yup...kinda stupid to me. I guess this means any team that USC has never played is a rival as well? Or maybe everyone is a rival?
I think you can have a defacto rival that you never play, and this could become more common with the playoff system. One of the reasons the SEC East teams are all rivals regardless of geography is because the success/failure of their seasons affects our ability to reach the SEC championship, so naturally we want them to lose as much as possible..

Let's say Carolina and Oregon become regular contenders for the playoffs. If we are constantly battling for that 4th spot then I think a rivalry would develop.
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Nevermind. I fixed the original text...
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I've said it 1,000,000 and I still believe it.

The SEC front office only cares about 3 rivalry games.

Alabama vs Tennessee
Auburn vs UGA
Aubrun vs Alabama

The ONLY reason the SEC maintains the cross division rivals to protect these 3 historic games.

Here's the simple solution to keep the 8 game SEC schedule.

Move Alabama and Auburn to the east.
Move Vandy and Missou to the west.
Drop the cross division rivals.
Everyone plays everyone every 4 years.
Problem solved
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Problem solved? Please.

Your realignment puts 66 SEC titles on one division, 18 in the other (LSU with 11.) It would mean four of the seven teams in the West would have never won an SEC title, three who haven't even been to ATL since the divisional split.
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I've said it 1,000,000 and I still believe it.

The SEC front office only cares about 3 rivalry games.

Alabama vs Tennessee
Auburn vs UGA
Aubrun vs Alabama

The ONLY reason the SEC maintains the cross division rivals to protect these 3 historic games.

Here's the simple solution to keep the 8 game SEC schedule.

Move Alabama and Auburn to the east.
Move Vandy and Missou to the west.
Drop the cross division rivals.
Everyone plays everyone every 4 years.
Problem solved.
They care about the Georgia Auburn and the Georgia Florida rivalry games too.
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Default Re: Not a Rival..

Tamu is not a rival of ours at this point. However no one can predict the future of something like this and it is likely that if this format of the SEC stays that this will develop into a rivalry. There is too many factors that can change whether or not this will become a rivalry but for now no this is just a cross divisional opponent.
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Problem solved? Please.

Your realignment puts 66 SEC titles on one division, 18 in the other (LSU with 11.) It would mean four of the seven teams in the West would have never won an SEC title, three who haven't even been to ATL since the divisional split.
You have a point here you have a flash in the pan at least for the time being in Mizzery. Then you have a bottom feeder in Vandy and replace those 2 with Bama and allbarn? This make no sense and LSU would be in the SEC Title game every year if this was the case.
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Here's the simple solution to keep the 8 game SEC schedule.

Move Alabama and Auburn to the east.
Move Vandy and Missou to the west.
Drop the cross division rivals.
Everyone plays everyone every 4 years.
Problem solved.
Good idea in theory, but then you have UGA, Florida, SC, Alabama, and Auburn in the same division. The East would be tough to win every year, while LSU would have the West almost every year (with A&M grabbing one every now and then). That would make it much tougher for East teams.
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