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Old 11-02-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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Never took the time to just watch his play by play action until today. He is not nearly as dominant as last season. He doesn't have the elusiveness of years prior. He was routinely given one on one opportunities and was consistently beaten by the LT. Jadeveon kept taking himself out of plays too. Zone reads were a big problem. He lost containment nearly every play. I hate it for him though. Whether its injuries, scheme, or effort...it's all off for him this year.
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I thought he had his worst game today.

If he would have taken the qb on the zone read plays most of the day it would have shut them down completely.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:30 PM   #3
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i was wondering if they were mistakes on his part too because i thought the whole plan was to hit the quarterback and he got caught in no man's land and the quarterback ended up keeping the ball. he played it right on the play he destroyed the qb, but the 3-4 read plays afterwards he was lost.

that said he still had a solid day, just not on the zone read plays.
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Quarles is our best defensive lineman right now.

Clowney keeps missing key opportunities, letting quarterbacks and runners slip right past him. His tackling form has dropped precipitously from what it was last year.

He was a beast last year.

That seems to have disappeared.

I don't think he has the passion for the game. He's just passing time until he gets to the NFL.
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I don't think he has the passion for the game. He's just passing time until he gets to the NFL.
I disagree.

It wasn't a good game for him but clearly he isn't 100%. Doesn't help that they constantly run away from him either. I do think he is a big part for the success of the others. LBs need to stiffen against the run though. Overall, we aren't as good on D as last year but not terrible either. Will be better over time I suspect.
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When Clowney wants to be the best player on the field, he is.

He reminds me an awful lot of Julius Peppers when he was with the Panthers. Was either giving 110% or 10%.
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He reminds me an awful lot of Julius Peppers when he was with the Panthers. Was either giving 110% or 10%.
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Clowney goes in so fast that the offense is able to get past him. Maybe he just needs to wait for a second to take off. Lol.

Clowney should still be in the Top 10 of the NFL draft. Maybe he'll end up going to a decent team.
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I disagree.

It wasn't a good game for him but clearly he isn't 100%. Doesn't help that they constantly run away from him either. I do think he is a big part for the success of the others. LBs need to stiffen against the run though. Overall, we aren't as good on D as last year but not terrible either. Will be better over time I suspect.
He hasn't been 100% a single game this year, the first 5 games were excuse laden, and missed one game, yes teams have learned how to deal with Clowney but clearly he is not the beast he was a year ago.
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he needs to stop trying to strip the ball and just tackle
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Clowney goes in so fast that the offense is able to get past him. Maybe he just needs to wait for a second to take off. Lol.
That's exactly what happens and why Deke hasn't had the conversation with him is beyond me. He comes off the end flying so fast that all you have to do is push him to the side and he's 6 yards past the QB, allowing the QB to move in the pocket and complete passes. Really frustrating to watch.
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He hasn't been 100% a single game this year, the first 5 games were excuse laden, and missed one game, yes teams have learned how to deal with Clowney but clearly he is not the beast he was a year ago.
Agree. Has nothing to do with effort though.
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They blocked him pretty well with one guy, but he usually had a double team. He made a few plays (blocked pass and some QB hurries). The real problem is that when the QB takes off he gets 15 yards, not Clowney's fault. Maybe he should play MLB? If we dropped him into coverage occasionally it would be better than him running 10 yards past the QB on the outside.
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Agree. Has nothing to do with effort though.
The effort is there its just not the same intensity as it was a year ago, at least it appears that way. I do believe the DL coaching change might come into play as well.
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That's exactly what happens and why Deke hasn't had the conversation with him is beyond me. He comes off the end flying so fast that all you have to do is push him to the side and he's 6 yards past the QB, allowing the QB to move in the pocket and complete passes. Really frustrating to watch.
because that is what deke wants. he wants upfield rush not lane integrity and it is hurting clowney. teams are stepping right by his aggressive rush. he should have not worried about the read at all on the zone read today. should have just hit the qb every time
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Really disappointing, for him. I just wonder how much of it is the scheme that Adams runs - that, rush up field vs. the way Lawing did it. I just can't believe, all other things equal, Clowney would see such a drop-off.....
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Anything for the team I guess but it doesn't look good that every play our All American is being pushed 6 yards behind the QB.
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May sound crazy. But with the new NFL bargaining agreement, the top 1-5 picks don't get nearly as much as they used to, and the lower get even less.

He just MIGHT want to come back to ensure he's top 3. The way he is playing, he could slip to 10 or lower.
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Some of it is poor coaching. You can tell he hasn't been drilled with DE fundamentals like keeping contain and not rushing upfield so far you are out of the play.
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The "teams run away from him" excuse is crap. Teams run right at him all game long.
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