Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC

quiverlip · 02-04-2009, 12:53 AM

Maybe someone could attest to Alex English or John Roache, but I wasn't around to see them.

I've never been so confident with a ball in a players hands. No knock on Watson or McKie, both great players, but they never played at Michael Jordan levels like DD is. He can absolutely take a game over and I would be willing to have the ball in his hands with the game on the line any game. This isn't even a knee-jerk reaction. It's just amazing to watch opponents continually double team him to little effect. I don't believe in "moral victories," but I've never been so proud to have a player rocking South Carolina on their chest.

Dr. Cock · 02-04-2009, 12:58 AM

As individual players, I don't think he's as good as those two you listed above. But in the modern era? Yes. It's difficult to ultimately judge because all of those players bring different assets to the table. But I think if I had to ultimately choose who I would want on my team right now at this point, I'd take Downey SLIGHTLY over McKie, who is damn good himself.

And to have Downey even compared to those two is a MAJOR feat itself. No active player in College Basketball right now compares to either of those guys. They are that good.

diehardgamecock · 02-04-2009, 01:02 AM

he's not bad, that's for sure.

GamecockSmitty4 · 02-04-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardgamecock

he's not bad, that's for sure.

Tremendous input.

Lol.

PSKcock · 02-04-2009, 01:07 AM

If Devan Downey gets the ball, there is a good chance he is going to score.............thats all i'm sayin

aztecgamecock2 · 02-04-2009, 01:08 AM

what an awsome performance by the team. Too bad we came up short tonight!!!

diehardgamecock · 02-04-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GamecockSmitty4

Tremendous input.

Lol.

yeah, i majored in understated humor.

Cockdaddy2001 · 02-04-2009, 01:38 AM

Roche is the reason I am a Gamecock Fan!

Downey is amazing........Don't want to compare different eras......just want to enjoy the team!

Spurticus · 02-04-2009, 07:20 AM

I agree that you can't say one certain player is better than other greats from the past because the game has changed so much in the past 30-40 years. The major difference being that in the begining until the late 60s there were very few to NO black players on any of the major Div 1-A teams. Then until the early 80s there was no three point line or shot clock in college basketball. There was no Dunking allowed in those days either. The game was all about Fundementals in the early years, and the team that had players that were better at ball handling, defensive footwork, execution of designed plays etc. . . . . . The game then was a lot more mental than it is today. IMO, John Roche is the best all around player this school has ever seen. He was good in all areas of the sport at that time, and was probably in my list of Top 20 best college players ever.
However, there is no denying that Downey is the best I've seen in a Gamecock uniform since the introduction of the modern game. The Shot Clock, the Three point line etc. . . . . I thought Trey Kelly was one hell of a player during his time here, but Downey has taken Kelly's game to a whole other level. No one that I can remember has been able to place a team's play on his shoulders the way Downey can, and just "TAKE OVER". He's can kill you by driving or from long range and anything in between.

Gamecock_girl_west · 02-04-2009, 08:56 AM

He's good, but he still needs work. He still tries to force a lot of plays and shots that aren't there and that results in a turnover or blocked shot, etc... I think he tries to do too much, which is common for the PG.

U-Dub Gamecock · 02-04-2009, 09:19 AM

Im only 38.... and really started watching Carolina basketball from the late 70's on.... So I do not want to discount what players did before I started watching, but Devan Downey is the best player I have seen play at Carolina

treyno2722 · 02-04-2009, 09:26 AM

Does he come back for his Senior year or does he go pro? I would hate to lose DD and Zam.

MBGCockOld · 02-04-2009, 09:26 AM

Im also proud he is in the garnet and black.^^ i would think he would come back.

Gamecock Scott · 02-04-2009, 09:27 AM

John Roche is the greatest to ever play at USC. He could take over any game he played in. Roche did in 3 years, what all these other players did in 4 years and he did it with no 3 point line. If he could have played as a freshman and had the 3 point line, no other USC player could have ever touched his scoring totals.

On a national level, the same goes for Pistol Pete Maravich. He averaged over 40 points a game with no 3 point line. He was an amazing college player.

Just so everyone knows... I'm not taking anything away from Devan Downey. He is a great player, but I just think Roche had more of an impact. Call me Old School if you want.

U-Dub Gamecock · 02-04-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by treyno2722

Does he come back for his Senior year or does he go pro? I would hate to lose DD and Zam.

Man I hope so....

Gamecock Scott · 02-04-2009, 09:30 AM

With Downey's size (5'9"), he won't see the NBA. He will be making his money over in Europe.

Kendalls Daddy · 02-04-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamecock Scott

With Downey's size (5'9"), he won't see the NBA. He will be making his money over in Europe.

Strongly diagree...

SCCOOP · 02-04-2009, 09:48 AM

D.D. was awesome last night. He took command and blazed the floor! Right now this guy can't be stopped. He has alot of heart and a desire to win. Very proud of our team also, just wish the free throws were falling. Helluva game

.

Kendalls Daddy · 02-04-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SCCOOP

D.D. was awesome last night. He took command and blazed the floor! Right now this guy can't be stopped. He has alot of heart and a desire to win. Very proud of our team also, just wish the free throws were falling. Helluva game

.

no doubt...
Lastnight really opened up a lot of people's eyes outside of the state and the SEC with the performance of DD, and Archie as well as the entire team...I really think 10-6 or 11-5 could happen...

Spurticus · 02-04-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gamecock Scott

John Roche is the greatest to ever play at USC. He could take over any game he played in. Roche did in 3 years, what all these other players did in 4 years and he did it with no 3 point line. If he could have played as a freshman and had the 3 point line, no other USC player could have ever touched his scoring totals.

On a national level, the same goes for Pistol Pete Maravich. He averaged over 40 points a game with no 3 point line. He was an amazing college player.

Just so everyone knows... I'm not taking anything away from Devan Downey. He is a great player, but I just think Roche had more of an impact. Call me Old School if you want.

This guy tops my list as the best college player I've ever seen in my lifetime !
And this post could not be more accurate. Best ball handler, and best pure shooter ever. Had he been allowed to play as a freshman, and had there been a 3 point line back then, he'd still own every scoring and assist record in college basketball to this day.

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02-04-2009, 12:53 AM	#1
quiverlip Walk On Male Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: greenville Posts: 75 CockyCash: 500	Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC Maybe someone could attest to Alex English or John Roache, but I wasn't around to see them. I've never been so confident with a ball in a players hands. No knock on Watson or McKie, both great players, but they never played at Michael Jordan levels like DD is. He can absolutely take a game over and I would be willing to have the ball in his hands with the game on the line any game. This isn't even a knee-jerk reaction. It's just amazing to watch opponents continually double team him to little effect. I don't believe in "moral victories," but I've never been so proud to have a player rocking South Carolina on their chest.

02-04-2009, 12:58 AM	#2
Dr. Cock Banned Male Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Irmo Posts: 5,037 CockyCash: 100000	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC As individual players, I don't think he's as good as those two you listed above. But in the modern era? Yes. It's difficult to ultimately judge because all of those players bring different assets to the table. But I think if I had to ultimately choose who I would want on my team right now at this point, I'd take Downey SLIGHTLY over McKie, who is damn good himself. And to have Downey even compared to those two is a MAJOR feat itself. No active player in College Basketball right now compares to either of those guys. They are that good.

02-04-2009, 01:02 AM	#3
diehardgamecock Household Name Male Join Date: May 2005 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 5,010 CockyCash: 101109992	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC he's not bad, that's for sure. __________________

02-04-2009, 01:07 AM	#5
PSKcock makin' da vids Male Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,073 CockyCash: 1260	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC If Devan Downey gets the ball, there is a good chance he is going to score.............thats all i'm sayin

02-04-2009, 01:08 AM	#6
aztecgamecock2 Walk On Male Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: chapin Posts: 88 CockyCash: 500	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC what an awsome performance by the team. Too bad we came up short tonight!!! __________________ AztecGamecock

02-04-2009, 01:38 AM	#8
Cockdaddy2001 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Irmo Posts: 2,768 CockyCash: 553	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC Roche is the reason I am a Gamecock Fan! Downey is amazing........Don't want to compare different eras......just want to enjoy the team! __________________ Spurrier isn't going to go full Dabo and jump around like a hillbilly meth addict with an infield pass to the Darlington 500

02-04-2009, 07:20 AM	#9
Spurticus IT'S MY GAMEFACE !! Male Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbia (Gaston Area ), SC Posts: 34,570 CockyCash: 100200	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC I agree that you can't say one certain player is better than other greats from the past because the game has changed so much in the past 30-40 years. The major difference being that in the begining until the late 60s there were very few to NO black players on any of the major Div 1-A teams. Then until the early 80s there was no three point line or shot clock in college basketball. There was no Dunking allowed in those days either. The game was all about Fundementals in the early years, and the team that had players that were better at ball handling, defensive footwork, execution of designed plays etc. . . . . . The game then was a lot more mental than it is today. IMO, John Roche is the best all around player this school has ever seen. He was good in all areas of the sport at that time, and was probably in my list of Top 20 best college players ever. However, there is no denying that Downey is the best I've seen in a Gamecock uniform since the introduction of the modern game. The Shot Clock, the Three point line etc. . . . . I thought Trey Kelly was one hell of a player during his time here, but Downey has taken Kelly's game to a whole other level. No one that I can remember has been able to place a team's play on his shoulders the way Downey can, and just "TAKE OVER". He's can kill you by driving or from long range and anything in between. __________________

02-04-2009, 08:56 AM	#10
Gamecock_girl_west 1st Team All-SEC Female Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 4,013 CockyCash: 200	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC He's good, but he still needs work. He still tries to force a lot of plays and shots that aren't there and that results in a turnover or blocked shot, etc... I think he tries to do too much, which is common for the PG. __________________

02-04-2009, 09:19 AM	#11
U-Dub Gamecock 1st Team All-American Male Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Snohomish County Native/425 Biotch! Posts: 11,804 CockyCash: 56185	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC Im only 38.... and really started watching Carolina basketball from the late 70's on.... So I do not want to discount what players did before I started watching, but Devan Downey is the best player I have seen play at Carolina

02-04-2009, 09:26 AM	#12
treyno2722 Blue Chip Male Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 543 CockyCash: 918	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC Does he come back for his Senior year or does he go pro? I would hate to lose DD and Zam.

02-04-2009, 09:26 AM	#13
MBGCockOld Banned Male Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Grand Strand Posts: 23,586 CockyCash: 81420865	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC Im also proud he is in the garnet and black.^^ i would think he would come back.

02-04-2009, 09:27 AM	#14
Gamecock Scott Blue Chip Male Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 543 CockyCash: 200	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC John Roche is the greatest to ever play at USC. He could take over any game he played in. Roche did in 3 years, what all these other players did in 4 years and he did it with no 3 point line. If he could have played as a freshman and had the 3 point line, no other USC player could have ever touched his scoring totals. On a national level, the same goes for Pistol Pete Maravich. He averaged over 40 points a game with no 3 point line. He was an amazing college player. Just so everyone knows... I'm not taking anything away from Devan Downey. He is a great player, but I just think Roche had more of an impact. Call me Old School if you want.

02-04-2009, 09:30 AM	#16
Gamecock Scott Blue Chip Male Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 543 CockyCash: 200	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC With Downey's size (5'9"), he won't see the NBA. He will be making his money over in Europe.

02-04-2009, 09:48 AM	#18
SCCOOP Blue Chip Male Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 804 CockyCash: 199334	Re: Devan Downey is the greatest player to ever play for USC D.D. was awesome last night. He took command and blazed the floor! Right now this guy can't be stopped. He has alot of heart and a desire to win. Very proud of our team also, just wish the free throws were falling. Helluva game.

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