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Old 06-29-2009, 10:21 AM   #1
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A few of guys said you were interested in hearing about it. The correct name for this blocking scheme is cut blocking not chop blocking. Chop blocking is illegal. With this blocking scheme your looking for smaller faster lineman who can get to the second level fast. Since Paul Johnson has been at GT these are the OL he has signed

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So like I said last someone like Seantreal Henderson wouldn't fit in this offense. He is 6ft7 and weighs around 380. You have to be able to fire off the line and shoot low at the legs of the defenders.

Why use the cut block technique?
This allows you more time to get the option set up. Also this enables the b back dive up the middle of the OL. Let's say your running a HB toss to the left side. You pull the right guard to that side once that ball is snapped. He has to get to the LB and cut block him. Cut blocking is also very big from a mental aspect. By the time the fourth quarter is starting DL are tired of getting up off the ground. Also let's say your a LB with NFL talent. Your thinking about your legs rather than the option. So instead of playing your assignment your looking for where the next cut block may come from thus slowing you down. One player messes his assignment up equals touchdown for the offense.
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Default Re: The triple option blocking scheme

This is a good technique. The problem is execution though. Our school tried something similar to this this year and our line couldn't execute the blocking like it was supposed to be run so it didn't work, but as long as you have linemen that are smart enough this is very effective.
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i think Seantreal is about 300-310, not 380....may have been a typo GT(if so..hahah..j/k)
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Sorry. I meant 308. Not 380.
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Default Re: The triple option blocking scheme

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A few of guys said you were interested in hearing about it. The correct name for this blocking scheme is cut blocking not chop blocking. Chop blocking is illegal. With this blocking scheme your looking for smaller faster lineman who can get to the second level fast. Since Paul Johnson has been at GT these are the OL he has signed

Raymend Beno 6ft1 wt 270
Antonio Foster 6ft4 280
Will Jackson 6ft4 275
Phil Smith 6 ft 5 290
Omoregie Uzzi 6ft4 304
Jay Finch 6ft4 255
Nick Mcrae 6ft3 293

So like I said last someone like Seantreal Henderson wouldn't fit in this offense. He is 6ft7 and weighs around 380. You have to be able to fire off the line and shoot low at the legs of the defenders.

Why use the cut block technique?
This allows you more time to get the option set up. Also this enables the b back dive up the middle of the OL. Let's say your running a HB toss to the left side. You pull the right guard to that side once that ball is snapped. He has to get to the LB and cut block him. Cut blocking is also very big from a mental aspect. By the time the fourth quarter is starting DL are tired of getting up off the ground. Also let's say your a LB with NFL talent. Your thinking about your legs rather than the option. So instead of playing your assignment your looking for where the next cut block may come from thus slowing you down. One player messes his assignment up equals touchdown for the offense.

Pretty good break down of the Navy/GT triple option. The one thing I would add the real issue of defeating this offense is disapline. I was a QB who ran the triple option and not coach HS QB's and we run the option but not normally the true triple even if there is a dive fake we normally precall the dive give or not.


The one thing about all the cutting is it is a high risk reward play because talented DL will not get cut and it also creates many lanes for blitzers to come through. The biggest thing about stoping the triple option is your 3 tech aka DT being able to take away the dive and to not run by the FB when he is handed the ball. It is extremely hard as you have seen if you ever watch GT. Also if the safety creeps up you fake the dive and hit the TE or Wingback down the seem. This offense is all about ball control and no mental mistakes.


All the current spread offense is just a modernization of the GT offense. You are letting guys go unblocked and reading them and using their athletecism against them and getting your athletes in space. Also the spread is a better passing possiblity offense.


gtandscfan I just want to let you know I really like watching GT run their offense because they show how a displine team is always better then just a team uses athletecism.
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Default Re: The triple option blocking scheme

Good post. Thanks for the props as well. It amazes me as how hard it is to stop the b back dive. Really its a simple play up the middle. It would no doubt be really hard to be a triple option QB. With learning the mesh with the b back to reading what the DE does.
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If you have fast disciplined LBers you will crush an option team. If you over run everything and arm tackle that team will run wild on you "cough Willie M are you listening"
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Not true with having fast LBers. If you have great blocking then LBers won't be a problem. Let's say you run a back toss to the left. You send your other a back to block the LB. While the middle LB is dealing with the b back dive. The other LB is on the other side of the field.
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Good point KMac. Execution is the hard part and we failed horribly last year.
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Good post. Thanks for the props as well. It amazes me as how hard it is to stop the b back dive. Really its a simple play up the middle. It would no doubt be really hard to be a triple option QB. With learning the mesh with the b back to reading what the DE does.
It is not hard if you can become consistent with your footwork. I could give you a detailed explanation of where to step and what not but I don't think you need the entire break down, but the key is to always step to the same spot and for the FB or B whichever you prefer to call him to always run the same line also. Also as you step you reach back as far as you can with two hand on the ball and when you find the stomach you just ride him through the whole, while staring at the DT. If the DT doesn't commit to the back then give him the ball. After that your pitching off the DE but that is just being an athlete, there are things to read but by that point your running now so it isn't as awkward. After you run the option for like a month you just get a nack and feel of when to give, pitch or fake pitch and cut underneath the DE.

One thing that we were taught that a lot of college coaches don't teach is to attack the inside should of the DE so that if a guy tries to play both you and the RB that you go underneath, most coaches want the QB to pitch and uses his body to block the DE. I think that is the dumbest idea and ruins the play, GT teaches correct. Also some QBs like to cut straight up but actually you should try to angle back out to the sideline that way the pitch back is still with you and you can pitch the ball down field. That is the coolest feeling, 20 yards down field got a safety or CB thinking they are going to stop you and suddenly flip there goes the back down the sideline. A perfect timed pitch into a small area as cool a feeling as a perfect pass spliting the safety and CB.


I hope GT can get a good combo QB who can throw and show the offense can do both. I'm not knocking your current guy he is doing great but he isn't the best passer. He was still better at passing then our QBs last year though.
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Once again another good post. Yeah I attend the practices and the offense is harder to learn than what I first thought. Last year we only had around 40% of the offense in. Now we are up to 80%.

Josh Nesbitt struggled a good bit last year. He missed a lot of time in the spring and the fall when Paul Johnson first got here. He has improved a lot though. His footwork and decision making has really improved. Offense looks much faster. Nesbitt has a cannon for a arm. His accuracy is lacking though. Majority of the time he didn't have time to past last year because our OL was so bad.
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If you can keep the QB's coming in you will have long term success I think. The RB's won't be an issue of getting because so many will get touches in this offense and linemen will want to play in a tough hard nose O like that also. It is just about being able to get smart atheletic QBs.
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I think we've signed one with Jordan Luallen.
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Go to this site, then to resources, it is straight flexbone like GT runs. It even has the blocking rules that PJ uses. The key is the scoop blocking scheme that allows one man to remain unblocked on the line for the dive read, and LB that is the pitch read key.

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Thanks for the link.

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My HS ran it for the last 2 years. The Veer. Always under center formations. Never block the last down lineman. Hes your read man. He commits to the run then the QB pulls the ball and runs an option. If he stays or goes outside then you give the ball to the FB. Simple offense that requires a good OL.
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Your HS ran a very simple option.
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worked real well against GW...
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Considering we had our third string QB in who is 6ft4 260 and is a pro style QB.
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